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Re: Dungeon Finder: Call to Arms

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From: Matt Davis
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 09:51
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Am 07.04.2011 17:53, schrieb neithskye:

> CTA is meant to lower wait times by offering additional rewards for
> queuing as the currently least represented role. To be eligible for
> the additional rewards you must solo queue for a random level-85
> Heroic in the role that is currently being Called to Arms, and
> complete the dungeon by killing the final boss. Every time you hit
> these requirements (there is no daily limit) you'll receive a goodie
> bag that will contain some gold, a chance at a rare gem, a chance at a
> flask/elixir (determined by spec), a good chance of receiving a non-
> combat pet (including cross faction pets), and a very rare chance at
> receiving a mount.

In theory, this is probably a good idea, trying to get some people to at 
least think about tanking a PUG.

For me personally, I don't see it working long term. I tank on my 
paladin and have a druid which will be 85 soon and also be tanking. My 
guild is small, on most nights less than 8 people on (unless scheduled 
raids are on). But even then, I now can do exactly ONE heroic a day 
where I still get something out of it. Thankfully, with the 7 
heroics/week plan this will get better a lot. Anyways, whenever I want 
to do a heroic, I will ask in guild chat and get at least 2-3 competent 
guild mates going with me. Why on earth would I go to a full PUG? Lots 
of times I will even be in a group with one of our other tanks, which 
"burns" them for the random population. I suspect this is true for lots 
of tanks. When I don't feel like tanking or are on my priest I will 
often queue up without guild mates if no other tanks are on, since the 
long wait times are hard to synchronize (do I abort my 30 min queue 
"just" to pick up another guild DPS? One competent DPS, in this case ME 
is enough to ensure success in most heroics nowadays). IF i think about 
it, a am contributing to the tank shortage in PUGs a lot this way, and 
many tanks will have the same experience.

For me, this might change with the rewards, maybe I will do a few full 
PUGs if I can get valor points AND the reward bag. However, ditching my 
guild mates/ friends for that reward doesn't sound too likely. Moreover, 
I don't care about gold. There would have to be 500+ gold in a run to at 
least be competitive with other ways to earn gold and I have more than I 
will need for a long time. Flasks are just more gold. I AM a pet 
collector, but already have most, will have to see which pets exactly 
are the reward. The mounts are probably the most interesting part. 
However this very much depends on the drop rate. If its comparable to 
the original source of the mounts, what's the point. In the time to run 
a heroic with the average 4 random people, I can do Sethekk Halls, Strat 
and MGT solo, probably faster. This is kind of a catch-22, since a 
higher drop rate will a) reduce the perceived value of said mounts and 
b) ensure that any tank will get 3 mounts and drop out of LFD again soon.

So I can see that reward might work to get some tanks into LFD, but 
right now I can't see which reward would actually get ME back in there 
for good. I have to say that the few times I DO tank a full PUG it's 
usually far from as bad as a lot of people say. There's just no point 
for a geared tank in a guild anymore.

regards, Matt
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