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On 24 Mar 2011 07:28:06 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:50:51 +0000, Catriona R wrote:
>>  On 23 Mar 2011 22:26:20 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >- I taunt if a mob leaves me and then Shield Slam it when it comes into rage
>> >- I try to use Victory Rush when available as it doesn't cost rage and
>> >  causes high threat
>> >- Strike seems pretty useless. At 20 rage it costs the same as shield slam
>> >  but according to DrDamage only does 21 damage (against 142 with Shield
>> >  Slam). Am I missing something or can I just leave that ability off my
>> >  bar?
>> 
>>  I believe Strike is just there as a generic ability for warriors below
>>  lvl 10 who don't have their spec-specific ability yet. so at least
>>  they can do *somethying*
>
>Ah, I see.
>
>>  (all meleeish classes that didn't already have a spammable ability got
>>  given one for low lvls, thank goodness
>
>Hm, hasn't strike got a 3s cooldown? Or am I confusing this with something
>else?

It does indeed, but that's not a long cd really. Warriors admittedly
did always have something usable at low lvls (albeit heroic strike was
their original basic move, which converted an auto attack into a
yellow one, so losing a rage-giving white attack, which was *not*
intuitive to a newbie, I never did figure why my first attempt at a
warrior always had NO rage until I learned my bear some time later and
spotted the link between HS and Maul), but now paladins and I think
shamans both got short cd melee abilities to use from the start too -
paladins used to only get a seal and auto attack the first few levels,
which was absolute torture frankly, while shamans, um... you're a
caster no matter your intentions at low lvls, was the previous
thinking, cast spells and auto attack :-P

>> >- Charge is only available out of combat and in Battle Stance. I'd love a
>> >  macro that puts me into Battle Stance (if not already in it), Charges and
>> >  then puts me back in Defensive Stance.
>> 
>>  Word of warning, that *will* leave you with no rage
>
>Ah, dang. I hadn't realised switching stances kills rage.

Yep, now it *may* keep some of it since I've not kept up with things,
it used to set you to 0 rage unless you had a particular talent which
let you keep some. There may be a little that remains now, but you'll
certainly lose most your rage.

>>  At a higher lvl, there should be a talent that lets you charge in
>>  combat and in any stance, but you're probably a way off that one atm
>>  (it was lvl 50 pre-4.0, no idea what it is now)
>
>It's available at level 29 now (Warbringer, I think) and I'm very much
>looking forward to that!

Ah nice, I'm glad they made that sooner, it's a great quality of life
talent :-)

>> >- is there any good way to fronload rage and/or threat when pulling?
>> 
>>  Not really. I believe shouts now give rage? If so, pull from ranged on
>>  one you can't just charge in on, and then do a shout
>
>Good to know, though I don't believe I have one yet.

Ah, of course, I keep forgetting they changed the levels on
everything, and all the buffs come in later than they used to! Looks
like you'll get Battle Shout at lvl 20, that'll give you some minor
threat on all mobs if you use it on a pull, not a lot, but even a
little will just get them on you first and not the healer if there's a
hot running or similar.

>>  Likewise I'll often faerie fire and then enrage on my bear, gain both
>>  rage and treat this way.
>
>Yupp, that is also my standard druid pulling pattern and while I have a
>thrown weapon to replace fairy fire, I was missing the enrage. It seems the
>shouts will take that place when I get it.

Looks like it, I was going to say there used to be a skill that
generated rage at cost of health, which was my old equivalent to
enrage, but I think that got removed, and replaced with the generating
rage from shouts method.
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