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"Todd" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> Last night, I played some UT99 ctf online to see if I could find some
> maps I haven't gotten from FileFront.  As I spawned into one map, I
> get a message telling me not to flag camp.
>
> I know that camping in Last Man Standing is where you hide out and let
> your opponents kill each other, then "win" the game by finishing off
> the real winner.  That's not fun.  (I hate how UT2004 tells me I'm
> camping when I'm playing bots, and there's only one opponent left, and
> it's easier to wait until he comes to me.)
>
> And then there's spawn camping in dm where you stand near a spawn
> point and kill everyone as they respawn, while they don't have any
> real weapons to defend with.
>
> But "flag camping"?  You mean, when I stand near the flag and shoot
> any enemy team member who comes into the area to take the flag?  I
> call that basic defense.
>
> Next thing you know, they'll ban "control point camping" in
> domination.
>
> Back when Jedi Knight 2 was new, I played on a public server.  I was
> so horrible, my tactic was to take up a position near the flag.  When
> an opponent came in to grab it, he'd focus his attention on me,
> leaving himself wide open for the other defender.
>
>

It's just my opinion, but I think "poor sportsmanship" is way overdone. If 
it's a team game and you are in the opponent's base they have every right to 
use whatever defense tactic they can to protect the objective. About the 
only caveat I have with that is when it's an insta game and someone is 
obviously targeting the objective in wait for you to touch it. That's kinda 
lame BUT I don't call people on it. Part of defending. 

Todd wrote:
> Last night, I played some UT99 ctf online to see if I could find some
> maps I haven't gotten from FileFront.  As I spawned into one map, I
> get a message telling me not to flag camp.

That's the thing about playing online. It's against humans. Some humans 
whine.

The only time I've seen flag camping against the rules on any ut server 
is ut3 where parking a vehicle on top of the flag really does make it 
unfairly hard to play. Everything else - fair game imo.

"Flash" <NOSPAM@digdilem.org> wrote in message 
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> Todd wrote:
>> Last night, I played some UT99 ctf online to see if I could find some
>> maps I haven't gotten from FileFront.  As I spawned into one map, I
>> get a message telling me not to flag camp.
>
> That's the thing about playing online. It's against humans. Some humans 
> whine.
>
> The only time I've seen flag camping against the rules on any ut server is 
> ut3 where parking a vehicle on top of the flag really does make it 
> unfairly hard to play. Everything else - fair game imo.
>
You are dead right if somebody doesnt like a camper than ffs they know where
the guy is and  there is a simple answer frag him  , only spawn camping and 
transporter
camping ( hammer) are beyond the pale IMO but dont get me started on N00Bs 
with fingers stuck to the taunt button
Nick_Dastardly