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MS internet explorer optical.  Been useing for 8 years.

I like it so much that when they stopped making it i bought a box of 5.

I'm a lefty so alot of the Gucci gamer rodents are no good for me.

Heaven knows what i will do when the last scroll wheel breaks :-(

Vis 

"mi wireless optical mouse" (www.microinv.com).  It's my 1st 
wireless.....before this one I used a Logitech usb optical mouse for the 
past 8-ish years.  The scroll wheel squeaks awfully bad so I have it in the 
closet for backup just incase this one craps out.
Robo29 

"mi wireless optical mouse" (www.microinv.com).  It's my 1st
wireless.....before this one I used a Logitech usb optical mouse for the
past 8-ish years.  The scroll wheel squeaks awfully bad so I have it in the
closet for backup just incase this one craps out.
Robo29

"Visine" <darrend43removethis--Bit@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> MS internet explorer optical.  Been useing for 8 years.
>
> I like it so much that when they stopped making it i bought a box of 5.
>
> I'm a lefty so alot of the Gucci gamer rodents are no good for me.
>
> Heaven knows what i will do when the last scroll wheel breaks :-(
>
> Vis
>
MS Trackball intrenet explorer over here, I've had it forever it seems. Your 
post gets my worried about a replacement. Tks

Noxx 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:45:32 GMT, "Derek"
<del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>I am in a nosey frame of mind, I would like to know what rodents are we 
>using.I have a Typhoon optical that been glowing happily for 2 years, now 
>getting a bit worn ( all the silvering is worn away). I suppose it won't 
>last for ever so I could be in the market for a replacement, at least to 
>keep as a standby in the drawer .
>
>Nick_Dastardly
>
>There are more questions than answers,
> so the more I find out the less I know
>

MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0

They quit making this model a few years back but luckily brought it
back last year due to pent-up demand.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105018

"Visine" <darrend43removethis--Bit@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> MS internet explorer optical.  Been useing for 8 years.
>
> I like it so much that when they stopped making it i bought a box of 5.
>
> I'm a lefty so alot of the Gucci gamer rodents are no good for me.
>
> Heaven knows what i will do when the last scroll wheel breaks :-(
>
> Vis
Vis can you bind all the buttons I get a problem with the typhoon in that 
the roller binds as the second thumb button I used to use a netmouse pro 
with the rocker which was brilliant for sniping and weapon change binds let 
down by the lack of an optical version and finally dropped by Genius
Nick_Dastardly 

Derek

I don't use funky binds as such, just the standard ones you can set by 
preferences.

Left mouse primary fire

Right mouse secondary fire

Scroll up next weapon

Scroll down previous weapon

Click scroll wheel down translocator select

I used to bind mouse buttons 4 and 5 to things but you need intellipoint 
software from MS loaded to do that.

apologies for the late reply

Vis 

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:35:22 -0000, "Visine"
<darrend43notthisbit@hotmail.com> wrote:


>I used to bind mouse buttons 4 and 5 to things but you need intellipoint 
>software from MS loaded to do that.

That must be application dependent.  I regularly bind 4 and 5 to
in-game functions and I just use the drivers built into XP.

Can't test it with UT99 though... don't have it installed.

You are right i think.  I use buttons 4 and 5 as forward and back wheel web 
browsing with fire fox.  So fast an easy i forgot i do it.

Vis 

On 28-Jan-2008, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:

> MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0
>
> They quit making this model a few years back but luckily brought it
> back last year due to pent-up demand.


I have a couple of those around here.  I also have a couple of Intellimouse
Explorers that are very similar in function but differ slightly in shape
(and they are white).  I've always been pretty pleased with them, but I'm
due for something different.  Right now, my workstation has a logitech mx310
attached to it.  I've been OK with the logitech because the buttons are the
same and can be bound the same as the microsoft mice.  It's a little
narrow... but the real issue is exactly what you (Folk) wanred me about a
year and a half ago when I asked about a ratpadz.  My ratpadz has worn out
and has worn the feet off my mouse.  They are both more or less trashed.

So, I popped by the NG today to get a little advice on replacements.  I'm
giving some consideration to a razer copperhead and the razer pro pad
mousing surface.  I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the matter.  I
haven't tried anything new in a long time but the other ones I thought
looked interesting were the new logitechs with weights and free spinning
wheels etc.

I think I'm also ready for a new keyboard.  Some of the games I've been
playing are beginning to make me feel like I don't have enough fingers
(Crysis and BF4 for instance)  I've been using Microsoft Ergonomic keyboards
for about 5 years or maybe a bit longer.  I use the regular $35.00 USD beige
PS2 one with nothing fancy.  I don't even know the model number.  I'm
starting to wonder if one of the keyboards out there marketed as a "gaming
keyboard" are worth the change.  I like the idea of programmable
macros/keybinds etc, but I've seen a couple of boards now that have like a
gamepad on the left side.  Does anyone have anything to say about new
keyboards as well?

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:45:04 GMT, "§ï×darts"
<sixdartsREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>On 28-Jan-2008, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:
>
>> MS Intellimouse Explorer 3.0
>>
>> They quit making this model a few years back but luckily brought it
>> back last year due to pent-up demand.
>
>
>I have a couple of those around here.  I also have a couple of Intellimouse
>Explorers that are very similar in function but differ slightly in shape
>(and they are white).  I've always been pretty pleased with them, but I'm
>due for something different.  Right now, my workstation has a logitech mx310
>attached to it.  I've been OK with the logitech because the buttons are the
>same and can be bound the same as the microsoft mice.  It's a little
>narrow... but the real issue is exactly what you (Folk) wanred me about a
>year and a half ago when I asked about a ratpadz.  My ratpadz has worn out
>and has worn the feet off my mouse.  They are both more or less trashed.
>
>So, I popped by the NG today to get a little advice on replacements.  I'm
>giving some consideration to a razer copperhead and the razer pro pad
>mousing surface.  I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the matter.  I
>haven't tried anything new in a long time but the other ones I thought
>looked interesting were the new logitechs with weights and free spinning
>wheels etc.
>
>I think I'm also ready for a new keyboard.  Some of the games I've been
>playing are beginning to make me feel like I don't have enough fingers
>(Crysis and BF4 for instance)  I've been using Microsoft Ergonomic keyboards
>for about 5 years or maybe a bit longer.  I use the regular $35.00 USD beige
>PS2 one with nothing fancy.  I don't even know the model number.  I'm
>starting to wonder if one of the keyboards out there marketed as a "gaming
>keyboard" are worth the change.  I like the idea of programmable
>macros/keybinds etc, but I've seen a couple of boards now that have like a
>gamepad on the left side.  Does anyone have anything to say about new
>keyboards as well?

I don't have any feedback on rodents.

I use the Icemat for a mousing surface, but some people are put off by
the noise.  On the plus side they're always smooth (or can become
smooth with a bit of soap and water) and they don't wear out.  Using
the replaceable Teflon mouse skates cuts down on the noise
considerably and puts them on par noise-wise with the Ratpadz.

As for keyboards, I've heard several people praise the Steel Series
keyboards, but I doubt they're worth the price you have to pay.  I use
the offspring of the old IBM M series keyboards found here:
http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html but if you're not
used to the buckling spring keyboards (or hate the noise) then you're
not going to be happy with them.  And TBH, the support feet on mine
have a tendency to close sometimes during rough gaming sessions so I
can't heartily recommend them either.

In other words, pay no attention to me... :-)

"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
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 And TBH, the support feet on mine
> have a tendency to close sometimes during rough gaming sessions

Not like that German kid on youtube are you? 

On 23-Feb-2008, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:

> As for keyboards, I've heard several people praise the Steel Series
> keyboards, but I doubt they're worth the price you have to pay.  I use
> the offspring of the old IBM M series keyboards found here:
> http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html but if you're not
> used to the buckling spring keyboards (or hate the noise) then you're
> not going to be happy with them.  And TBH, the support feet on mine
> have a tendency to close sometimes during rough gaming sessions so I
> can't heartily recommend them either.


Thanks, Folk.  You've set me on a quest, I think.

I just realized that if I want a new keyboard, I'm going to have to do some
research.  I'll start here:  That IBM M - How responsive are the keys and do
you have anything to compare the necessary pressure to depress the keys to?
-  That sounds a little nuts, but I actually have a pretty good reason for
asking.  I crushed my ulner nerve in my left elbow about a year ago and had
ulner nerve transposition surgery done last April.  My pinky and ring finger
aren't 100% operational any more.  The only way to describe it is that they
feel like they are asleep all the time ("pins and needles" I think is the
terminology I used as a kid) and they don't have a normal amount of
strength.  My Microsoft Ergonomic is what I think you are calling a
"buckling spring" but it is well worn and no longer requires the pressure to
depress a key that it did when it was new.  If it was as stiff as when it
was new, I probably wouldn't be able to use it very well.

I just spent a half hour reading about the Steel Series.  That sounds like
it might be a good solution for me, but you're right about the price tag,
and a cursory inspection of my favorite online stores (i.e. newegg etc)
didn't turn up any G7's for sale and a universal "out of stock" notice
across the board for G6's.  If I venture away from my normal online vendors,
I could probably find one I suppose, but I'd have to be extraordinarily
convinced it is worth it to do business with websites I'm unfamiliar with.

I've read a few things online about this keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16823161028 Ideazon Merc
Stealth, but I'd sure like to get a comparison from someone who has actually
used one.  The newegg reviews are a bit mixed and the guy that reviewed it
at overclockers club seems to have some legit gripes that I would probably
have about its "normal use" functionality.... and I've read a couple of
times that it seems to be missing a delete key.  ctrl alt delete is a bit
difficult without a delete key. I'm gaming on windows, so that fact alone
means that I occasionally need to ctrl alt delete <grin>.  I really need to
find out if it is actually missing a delete key or if it is just not in a
normal place.  Soooo... anyone who happens across this thread who has any
experience in the matter, please chime in.

I'll take your advice this time on mousing surface. I just ordered that
razer copperhead and an icemat.  -  I really wish I had taken your advice
last time.  My ratpadz is still on my desk but it wore out a long time ago
and it has eaten the rear feet off two or three mice in its short lifespan.
I loved it for maybe the first 90 days, but it wore out fast.  Now, I'm
really looking forward to throwing it away.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:27:39 -0800, "goPostal"
<agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
>news:1ss1s3d9ae21sic7stdg4eih31ni9i1d0s@4ax.com...
> And TBH, the support feet on mine
>> have a tendency to close sometimes during rough gaming sessions
>
>Not like that German kid on youtube are you? 

I punch my wife instead.  She's harder to break.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:32:35 GMT, "§ï×darts"
<sixdartsREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>On 23-Feb-2008, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:
>
>> As for keyboards, I've heard several people praise the Steel Series
>> keyboards, but I doubt they're worth the price you have to pay.  I use
>> the offspring of the old IBM M series keyboards found here:
>> http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html but if you're not
>> used to the buckling spring keyboards (or hate the noise) then you're
>> not going to be happy with them.  And TBH, the support feet on mine
>> have a tendency to close sometimes during rough gaming sessions so I
>> can't heartily recommend them either.
>
>
>Thanks, Folk.  You've set me on a quest, I think.
>
>I just realized that if I want a new keyboard, I'm going to have to do some
>research.  I'll start here:  That IBM M - How responsive are the keys and do
>you have anything to compare the necessary pressure to depress the keys to?
>-  That sounds a little nuts, but I actually have a pretty good reason for
>asking.  I crushed my ulner nerve in my left elbow about a year ago and had
>ulner nerve transposition surgery done last April.  My pinky and ring finger
>aren't 100% operational any more.  The only way to describe it is that they
>feel like they are asleep all the time ("pins and needles" I think is the
>terminology I used as a kid) and they don't have a normal amount of
>strength.  My Microsoft Ergonomic is what I think you are calling a
>"buckling spring" but it is well worn and no longer requires the pressure to
>depress a key that it did when it was new.  If it was as stiff as when it
>was new, I probably wouldn't be able to use it very well.

I doubt the Microsoft keyboard was a buckling spring keyboard.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring
That link has a decent drawing of how it works.  Basically there's a
spring under each key that "buckles" or bends when you put a certain
amount of pressure on it.  I started out on those types of keyboards
back in the day so I like them, but it's definitely a personal
preference sort of thing.

Keyboards and mice (and LCD monitors to a degree) fall into the "try
before you buy" category.  I realize you live in Bumfuck, Egypt so
that's maybe not as easy for you, but there's no real way to get a
feel for keyboard action without pressing a few.  From the explanation
of your ulner nerve problem, I'm thinking maybe a buckling spring
keyboard isn't for you.


>I'll take your advice this time on mousing surface. I just ordered that
>razer copperhead and an icemat.  -  I really wish I had taken your advice
>last time.  My ratpadz is still on my desk but it wore out a long time ago
>and it has eaten the rear feet off two or three mice in its short lifespan.
>I loved it for maybe the first 90 days, but it wore out fast.  Now, I'm
>really looking forward to throwing it away.

Yeah, I was stupid enough to buy two of them.  Live and learn...

Invest in some mouse skates.  I not only use them on my mouse, but
also on my keyboard and the base of my LCD monitor.  It makes all
those things easier to slide around on my desk.  I bought some in Sep.
of '05 and I still have some left.  An example can be seen here:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2540
which is what I have now, or you can buy the tape and cut them to
whatever size you need.