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"Derek" <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
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>I have been having serious problems with my connection since before 
>christmas with enormous packet loss >35% and ping spiking into the 
>stratosphere I'm working with the ISP Virgin Media to resolve it and due a 
>3rd tech visit this week  so if I've slid past you at any point sorry but I 
>can't help it.
> Anyway in the course of testing the tech supp thought it could be a 
> problem at my end  so I fitted a new cable modem which proved even worse 
> then I started to question my computer its way more than capable of 
> running UT at Hi settings with a gig of pc3200 ram an Athlon XP 3200+ and 
> a geforce 5900xt it hits FR better than 100fps so its not struggling maybe 
> the NIC ?   well not really its a gigabit connected to a 4 meg cable modem 
> so it should fly the second NIC is a 10/100 to connect herself to the net 
> ( peer to peer) maybe I should stop being stingy and spring for another 
> gigabit so the Lan is running faster then I saw a horrendously expensive 
> accelerated NIC with its own onboard processor that offloads the 
> networking form the CPU.
> Question: would you really spend this much to gain a slight edge gaming ?
> ( provided of course you are not Fatal1ty  Johnathon Wendel )
> http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(24576)KillerNIC-M1-online-gaming-network-accelerator.aspx
>
> like the heat sink tho very UT
>
> Nick-Dastardly
>

First off, take these:

(..........)

Those are periods. Use them. It makes your postings way easier to read.

Now, there is no reason to go all crazy. Use Occam's razor to diagnose the 
problem. Have you disabled your firewall to see if that's it? Cable is 
terrible at giving actual speeds advertised, especially at peak times. Have 
you done a speed test to see if you are getting what you think you have? 
Have you done a traceroute to see if there are bottlenecks somewhere? Is it 
confined to UT or do other games give problems?
Don't think the "techs" are anything other than guys who took two semesters 
of computer science in high school. Find the problem yourself. You have the 
tools, google a little know-how and you'll get it fixed. 

Derek

Are you on cable or ADSL?

Vis 

Doh did not read sorry.

Try these links

http://www.chetnet.co.uk/

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/

Looking at your setup it does seem a bit odd.

For best results you should have your modem in to a router then all your 
other pc's connected to your router.  Which you could set up for band width 
allocation, port forwarding etc for servers and games and P2P if needed.

You say you have 2 network connections running from 1 PC a giganet and a 
10/100.  I hope you do not have the P2P running at the same time as you are 
trying to game as that will be your network problems right there especially 
if P2P is up/downloading fast.

Virgin have you on a 4mb modem??  seems awfully slow, the standard modem 
will run up to 30mb at the moment.  I have a 20mb at home and its rock 
solid.

It could be your modem will go much fast but you are on the "L" upto 4 mb 
package.

Does your packet loss stay constant through out the day??

If it varies you may be in an area where virgin are now over subscribed and 
you are in contention with the others on the UBR for your street.

When you next get a Virgin Tech visit get him to ensure the Input power 
levels to your modem are spot on.  Too weak or strong have both caused 
problems for me.  I had to get them in the past to turn up the signal level 
for the whole street as they had been adding customers but not adjusting 
power levels to match new demand.

Those links should help

Virgin is wonderfull when it works.  But when it does not :-(

PS when you next see a tech ask him how much he gets for a call out.  you 
will be shocked

TTFN

Vis 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:43:37 GMT, "Derek"
<del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>I have been having serious problems with my connection since before 
>christmas with enormous packet loss >35% and ping spiking into the 
>stratosphere I'm working with the ISP Virgin Media to resolve it and due a 
>3rd tech visit this week  so if I've slid past you at any point sorry but I 
>can't help it.
>Anyway in the course of testing the tech supp thought it could be a problem 
>at my end  so I fitted a new cable modem which proved even worse then I 
>started to question my computer its way more than capable of running UT at 
>Hi settings with a gig of pc3200 ram an Athlon XP 3200+ and a geforce 5900xt 
>it hits FR better than 100fps so its not struggling maybe the NIC ?   well 
>not really its a gigabit connected to a 4 meg cable modem so it should fly 
>the second NIC is a 10/100 to connect herself to the net ( peer to peer) 
>maybe I should stop being stingy and spring for another gigabit so the Lan 
>is running faster then I saw a horrendously expensive accelerated NIC with 
>its own onboard processor that offloads the networking form the CPU.
>Question: would you really spend this much to gain a slight edge gaming ?
>( provided of course you are not Fatal1ty  Johnathon Wendel )
>http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(24576)KillerNIC-M1-online-gaming-network-accelerator.aspx
>
>like the heat sink tho very UT
>
>Nick-Dastardly 

The Killer nic has been reviewed bunches of times.  Most reviewers say
the slight improvement in pings (due to offloading the network stack
to the nic's onboard processor) is not worth the price.  

BTW, the version with the heat sink is a bit of a ripoff.  Newegg has
both versions listed here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=killer+nic

There's a US $100 difference in price!

"Visine" <darrend43notthisbit@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Doh did not read sorry.
>
> Try these links
>
> http://www.chetnet.co.uk/
>
> http://www.cableforum.co.uk/
>
> Looking at your setup it does seem a bit odd.
>
> For best results you should have your modem in to a router then all your 
> other pc's connected to your router.  Which you could set up for band 
> width allocation, port forwarding etc for servers and games and P2P if 
> needed.
>
> You say you have 2 network connections running from 1 PC a giganet and a 
> 10/100.  I hope you do not have the P2P running at the same time as you 
> are trying to game as that will be your network problems right there 
> especially if P2P is up/downloading fast.
>
> Virgin have you on a 4mb modem??  seems awfully slow, the standard modem 
> will run up to 30mb at the moment.  I have a 20mb at home and its rock 
> solid.
>
> It could be your modem will go much fast but you are on the "L" upto 4 mb 
> package.
>
> Does your packet loss stay constant through out the day??
>
> If it varies you may be in an area where virgin are now over subscribed 
> and you are in contention with the others on the UBR for your street.
>
> When you next get a Virgin Tech visit get him to ensure the Input power 
> levels to your modem are spot on.  Too weak or strong have both caused 
> problems for me.  I had to get them in the past to turn up the signal 
> level for the whole street as they had been adding customers but not 
> adjusting power levels to match new demand.
>
> Those links should help
>
> Virgin is wonderfull when it works.  But when it does not :-(
>
> PS when you next see a tech ask him how much he gets for a call out.  you 
> will be shocked
>
> TTFN
>
> Vis
I've been running diagnostics and so have cable support tracert checked 
ports modem interrogation etc . It seems the problem is varience in the 
signal levels the difficulty being that the problem is not consistant that 
and some very odd tracerts reading within the NTL  system dodgy or 
overloaded router.
The network setup is a legacy from NTL  days when they would not support 
more than one machine on a  STB  connection nor allow a  router, so the 
quick and dirty way was to have the most used machine as the gateway and 
have the network run off that, we have had 4 machines running simultaneously 
with no great problems. As we do not file share, these days most of the 
bandwidth eating operations we run are net-radio and UT hardly a problem on 
4 meg. Could be putting a router on the CM would be a good long term 
solution I will have to check what VM are advising in that respect every 
little helps .
The packet loss is unpredictable I could play a game and see <5% next game I 
am a slide monkey and it spikes the thick end of 50% which is when I quit 
rather than ruin the game for other players and get deeply annoyed at the 
end sudden of my stress relief................
( which btw gopostal is when I dont really give a toss about punctuation or 
come to that grammer - when the adrenaline takes over :-) .Those (.....) are 
I should point full stops or they were when my English Language teacher was 
alive around 30some years ago and a period is time related division.  :-) 
bug me and we will come and tax your Tea.

Nick_ Dastardly
and I never said bloody colonials .........oops :-) 

"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:43:37 GMT, "Derek"
> <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been having serious problems with my connection since before
>>christmas with enormous packet loss >35% and ping spiking into the
>>stratosphere I'm working with the ISP Virgin Media to resolve it and due a
>>3rd tech visit this week  so if I've slid past you at any point sorry but 
>>I
>>can't help it.
>>Anyway in the course of testing the tech supp thought it could be a 
>>problem
>>at my end  so I fitted a new cable modem which proved even worse then I
>>started to question my computer its way more than capable of running UT at
>>Hi settings with a gig of pc3200 ram an Athlon XP 3200+ and a geforce 
>>5900xt
>>it hits FR better than 100fps so its not struggling maybe the NIC ?   well
>>not really its a gigabit connected to a 4 meg cable modem so it should fly
>>the second NIC is a 10/100 to connect herself to the net ( peer to peer)
>>maybe I should stop being stingy and spring for another gigabit so the Lan
>>is running faster then I saw a horrendously expensive accelerated NIC with
>>its own onboard processor that offloads the networking form the CPU.
>>Question: would you really spend this much to gain a slight edge gaming ?
>>( provided of course you are not Fatal1ty  Johnathon Wendel )
>>http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(24576)KillerNIC-M1-online-gaming-network-accelerator.aspx
>>
>>like the heat sink tho very UT
>>
>>Nick-Dastardly
>
> The Killer nic has been reviewed bunches of times.  Most reviewers say
> the slight improvement in pings (due to offloading the network stack
> to the nic's onboard processor) is not worth the price.
>
> BTW, the version with the heat sink is a bit of a ripoff.  Newegg has
> both versions listed here:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=killer+nic
>
> There's a US $100 difference in price!

I was unlikely to pay anything like that for a NIC even at US pricesand UK 
are much higher- I have a drawer full of 10/100 for the time being
  btw I am up to speed a faulty setting in the local (VM ) router supplying 
wrong signal  strength which was tripping up the CM adjusted by the tech in 
the street cabinet and I am sniping happily again.
Nick_Dastardly 

Excellent Nicky D Excellent.

Saw you on multiplay :-)

Vis