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Re: Why Classic Domination sucks so much...

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From: goPostal
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:23
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"Todd" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> Flash <NOSPAM@digdilem.org> wrote:
>
>>nwDOM is still my favourite ut gametype ever. Shame no bugger else plays
>>it :(
>
> What is nwDom?  I did a Google search, but didn't find an explanation.
>
> I asked:
>
>>> By the way, anyone know why bots get stuck on stairs so often on
>>> non-professional maps?
>
> Flash <NOSPAM@digdilem.org> answered:
>
>>Bad bot pathing. For the reasons you describe, solo dom isn't that much
>>fun so I'm guessing the map makers don't put a lot of effort into
>>supporting it.
>
> I was hoping for a more detailed explanation.  If I didn't despise the
> Unreal editor so much (can't they just use scrollbars, instead of
> ctrl-alt-shift-del-bkspc-ins-click), I'd volunteer to do botpathing
> for those who can't get it or don't want to bother.  And really, if
> you can work with the editor, and have the talent to make an
> incredible map, how hard is botpathing?
>
>

Actually tougher than you think. The bot AI makes a LOT of decisions on the 
fly and the editor allows you to greatly tweak their preferences for paths, 
item, etc. Pathing a larger AS or DOM or any of the warfare mapstyles can be 
very challenging, maybe more so than creating the map. 
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