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Article #190973Re: My honest review after a night of playing UT3
From: GTD
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:34
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:34
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Alfred Kaufmann wrote: > Give Patch101 a try and then re-post this review. Maybe the patch > will fix some of the problems. > > Al > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:45:22 -0800 (PST), GTD <toobiep@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Well, I must say that I am rather disappointed at the game as a whole. >> The epic forums and other message board are full of people praising it >> without making any real points other than that it looks tremendous, >> and that anyone that doesn't like it just doesn't know what they are >> talking about/is an idiot/hasn't really played it. I keep seeing "It >> hasn't been out long enough for an honest review", But how long does a >> game have to be out to realize they removed much of what the previous >> games had? >> First, obviously the UI, , it's bad, , much like a console, , but >> enough about that, that seems to be a big point, and at times the only >> one addressed. Some people don't care that it takes many more steps to >> exit the game than previous versions of the game did, but >> nevertheless, it's still a huge step backwards. It's going to be a >> real pain to anyone modding: Many more steps to get out of the game >> when testing. >> Second, the entire Adrenaline system is removed. No adreanline combos, >> stock or otherwise. I just think that was a bad move, I would be left >> out due to a rushed release and/or Epic's apparent tendency to pawn >> stuff off on the modding community. What wasimplemented in it's place: >> Nothing. . . >> Third, six gametypes, , yes SIX. Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, CTF, >> VCTF, Duel, and Warfare. No ONS or Assault, which we were led to >> believe Warfare is a suitable replacement for. (It is not a suitable >> replacement for either so far, but I'm still trying to get into it). >> No Bombing Run, No Domination or any sort, no Invasion, Last Man >> Sanding. Again, it feels like they left it all for the fans to make, >> kinda like they left AS out of ut2003. >> Next are the VTMs. There are lots of them, for every aspect of map >> making, , that's right, , no coding tuts, no vehicle rigging tuts, >> nothing about weapons or anything: Just mapping. >> The last thing, is the one that ist he preverbial "straw that broke >> the camel's back": Bots are limited to 15 in a map. So for those of us >> that live in a rural enough area that we don't get good enough pings >> for online play, or just can't take the game serious enough to play >> online, We're just plainly out of luck. As I stated, it's a deal- >> breaker for me. My main reason for picking up UT3 was to mod for it: I >> mod for 2k4, and in between modding or while testing, I play a bit >> against bots, ,32, , bots. Why anyone would want to play with less is >> beyond me, and I understand: "The real games are against >> humans, ,blah blah blah". Yea, I know that's what many think, but if >> you for whatever reason, can't play online, it makes the game rather >> worthless. It is obvious bot support is not anwhere near a priority in >> Epic's book, with the reduction in the number of bots, and what seems >> to be their sloppy, barely present AI. For most of what I have seen, >> the bots, even at higher skills, run around pretty pointlessly, not >> really doing anything until they stumble across an enemy or a point of >> interest like the flag in CTF. >> As for graphics, while the system is updated for much greater >> capabilities, what ships with the game is IMO not as great as many are >> boasting. NO, it's not my system, I have an X1950XTX video card and a >> VERY good 22" monitor, 2k4, HL3, Bioshock, as well as others look >> AWESOME on my system, UT3 looks kinda washed and drab. >> There are also some other little inconvienences, but I'm not sure if >> they are universal or not, since I see little mention of them in the >> boards: Set the mutators, number of players and such, and the next >> time you start the game up, do it all over agains, because UT3 is not >> remembering anything. Same with my keyboard mapping, but I wonder if >> everyone has this problem, because I see little mention of it. >> Add it all up, and notice some threads on Epic's message boards are >> getting locked without being answered, it looks to me like they are in >> damage control mode. I question the sources of messages that openly >> praise the game in blanket fashion, throw veiled insults at anyone >> that thinks otherwise, and the failure of anyone to adress some of the >> issues. Just my $.02 OK, that upped the number of bots, seems to have given us a quicker way out of the game, and seemed to have helped a little on the AI. Still, the game looks dull, and the UI cheesy. Such a dull environment, and it makes the weapon effects look like a cartoon. . Anyways, what they fixed was still a rather small part: There's so few gametypes, and really, except for warfare, they are the simplest ones to make.
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-sjc-02!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: GTD <Stooopid@duuuh.net> Newsgroups: alt.games.unreal.tournament Subject: Re: My honest review after a night of playing UT3 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:34:21 -0900 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <13kjjhu6v7m5c6b@corp.supernews.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <eadcb907-4864-47ba-8a89-24298a199fc5@b32g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <hf9jk3d0hcdu4rlm88c9kdijot55qao8ih@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <hf9jk3d0hcdu4rlm88c9kdijot55qao8ih@4ax.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 84 Bytes: 5935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit