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Re: Opinions?

#190771
From: GTD
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40
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Kyle wrote:
> "goPostal" <agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0PbIi.15$Ez7.14@newsfe05.lga...
> |
> | "Visine" <darrend43removethis--Bit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:Y73Ii.2862$X%4.1084@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> | > Walk away mate
> | >
> | > If enough do there will be no one left to pawn and the server will
> slowly
> | > die.
> | >
> | > I agree with Noxx you just have to find a server with players that
> think
> | > as you do.  ( thats why i play multiplay in the uk)  A bit far
> from you i
> | > know.
> | >
> | > Chin up goPostal and time to move on.
> | >
> | > Crysis demo is just days away :-)
> | >
> | > http://www.crysisdemo.com/
> | >
> | > Vis
> | >
> |
> | Thanks for the opinions. I guess it just caught me the wrong way. I
> don't
> | mind getting beaten but it just seems uncool for tagged clan players
> to be
> | acting like that. Being a good sport makes a good game. I've even
> let an
> | obviously new player score on me just so I could congratulate them
> on doing
> | a good job. I even try to say something positive after each match
> about
> | someone (or some team) doing well. I figure good will does a lot
> more to
> | retain players than getting killed as soon as you spawn.
> |
> 
> 
> Your comments are quite on point gopostal.
> 
> Back when competition was face-to-face athletics directed by a mature
> coach, the athletes knew they would most certainly see their
> competitor again in a future event and good sportsmanship was
> typically the norm.  Though I can recall some minor unsportsmanlike
> behavior while participating in high school athletics, this was an
> unusual event, and I recall making many good friends on opposing
> teams.  Further, back then, coaches were less influenced by parents
> and a misbehaving athletes would be punished by sitting the bench.
> 
> Today, in addition to the idiot pro athletes whose behavior is the
> worst of examples, too many of the youth athletic coaches (and
> parents) have adopted the "in your face" approach to competition, a
> terribly unfortunate development imho.  In addition, the internet, and
> its built-in anonymity, seems to promote "assholeism" so often seen in
> competitive arenas.
> 
> My approach is simply go find another server to play on since trying
> to educate today's youths about things such as good sportsmanship
> seems to fall on deaf ears.  Hmmmm, do ya suppose our parents said the
> same things? (lol).
> 
> I do note that in-game voice capability seems to add more
> "friendliness" or "humanism" to the game, particularly in
> Counterstrike (Source) since one typically has a spell of idle time
> during online play in which voice comments are quite common.

Another layer that seems to add to poor sportsmanship is the growing 
cost of higher education, thus the necessity for scholarships and such. 
It seems many schools, especially in less-fortunate areas, seem to 
striving for attention, sportsmanship be dammed. It's not just a matter 
of winning, but on top of a win, they try for "the big hit" for the 
highlight reel. Weather it be a smashing tackle, a grand slam home run, 
a vicious runner-catcher collision at home plate, a hard drive through 
the lane, as long as it gets attention of people, it has the chance of 
getting the attention of someone looking to hand out a scholarship.

It doesn't help that so much of television promotes, as you aptly put it 
, "assholeism". I can't think of a single "reality" television show that 
doesn't feed into it. As much as I like dirt-biking and such, I can't 
watch even a few minutes of the "Crustys Dirt Demons" because they are 
just such assholes to each other. People try and justify it by calling 
them "competitive", but that's not it, the personalities I see are 
identical to those of the inmates that I see at the prison I work at. 
what a bunch of douchebags.
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From: GTD <Stoooopid@duuuh.net>
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Subject: Re: Opinions?
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:40:49 -0800
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