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Folk wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:21:04 +0000, mark <marknot@thisaddress.com>
> wrote:
> 
> I've been on Windows platforms since 3.1.  I'm a software developer
> and gamer.  I've never had a virus, trojan or other nasties. 

If you are a professional I would hope not too. You have to admit though 
that the default installation of Windows is inviting all the nasties it 
gets. Who in their right mind would have a default install with Admin 
rights for its user?

  If
> you're geek enough to install Linux, then you're probably geek enough
> to practice safe computing and should never get a virus either.

There was a time not so long ago when this comment would be totally true 
but new distros like Ubuntu have totally killed this theory. You don't 
need to be a geek to install it and there are no viruses for it.
> 
> Oh yeah, I also don't have any form of anti-virus software installed,
> nor do I have a software firewall.

I'm not sure of the wisdom of that. I suspect you do use a firewall of 
some kind though.

> 
> And because I'm a gamer, I wouldn't touch *nix with a 10 foot pole.
> Yeah, Epic is nice enough to provide ports, but most games don't.  It
> would piss me off to the n'th extreme to be sitting on the sidelines
> and not able to play some game because it hasn't been (or never will
> be) ported to *nix.  Sure, I might be able to run it (poorly) under
> emulation like Wine, but what's the point in that?

Well that is partially true but I only play UT and this is a UT group. I 
understand that there are other games moving to Linux but I'm not really 
aware of them.
> 
> I won't even bother with my need to run all MS office apps and various
> other pieces of software in order to support my clients, none of which
> have ever been ported to *nix.

Why on earth would you want to port MS office apps to Linux? that is a 
ridiculous idea. MS office is both expensive and useless. There are many 
applications in Linux which are both superior and compatible with MS 
Office. I use them every day and the MS users I send them too have no 
problems (Ok I'll agree if you use Access but I understand that is due 
to change soon).
> 
> And I'm a software developer who did a fair share of work on Unix
> based systems, although my main thrust is the IBM midrange platform
> (which uses a proprietary OS).  So I'm not afraid of alternative OS's,
> it's just that I'm not going to torture myself trying to use them in a
> gaming or business support environment.

That was clearly some time ago. You have to remember that Linux does not 
progress at the slow rate that Windows does. How long has it been now 
since Ms released a new version of windows? if memory serves me right 
there was a gap of 5 years (XP in 2001 and now Vista in 2006) Red 
hat/fedora for example have released 10 new versions in that time. 
Things are moving ahead at great pace.
> 
> There's certainly nothing wrong with Linux, but recommending it to
> gamers seems counterintuitive, unless the only game you ever plan to
> play is UT.

Well thats kind of true too. As I said I do only play UT and this is a 
UT group. On the other hand I use it for many other things too which is 
where Linux really excels. And of course a dual boot system which I 
recommended is free to try and still allows the use of windows if that 
suits better. There is no point burning bridges and getting rid of 
Windows if that's what you prefer and i didn't suggest that so there is 
no harm in using both. I do.

Mark
> 
> So there.  :P