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Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36861
Author: flupp
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:00
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I tried to ask this in the forum but i somehow forgot the proper way
to open a thread for a new question

This is my problem:
I know, the right way is to go through a hole in the wall of the
cathedral after manteling up a beam in the cathedral (I never tried to
do this directly in the bell tower like some experts obviously
managed)

i was standing near the altar and shot a rope-arrow up into the 1st
beam near the hole in the wall .Then tried the normal thing (since
last Friday):
key "jump" and key "forward" simultaneously with an endless amount of
variations of :
-entry point of the arrow
-direction of the jump
- marginal time-delays of "jump" and "forward"/"fast forward" (+ and
-)
-view-direction (up,straight)

I also tried to jump directly into the hole in the wall

I keep falling down.

I know - the correct method may be hard to explain, but please
-anybody- try!
This seems to be the ultimate showstopper for me for an otherwise
really beautiful mission. sob...

Thanks for an answer
Re: Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36862
Author: MosNot
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:13
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"flupp" <flupp@ohno.org> wrote in message 
news:r712o35ubmp25a92auh7d9l1i83bgercdh@4ax.com...
>
> I tried to ask this in the forum but i somehow forgot the proper way
> to open a thread for a new question
>
> This is my problem:
> I know, the right way is to go through a hole in the wall of the
> cathedral after manteling up a beam in the cathedral (I never tried to
> do this directly in the bell tower like some experts obviously
> managed)
> i was standing near the altar and shot a rope-arrow up into the 1st
> beam near the hole in the wall .Then tried the normal thing (since
> last Friday):
> key "jump" and key "forward" simultaneously with an endless amount of
> variations of :
> -entry point of the arrow
> -direction of the jump
> - marginal time-delays of "jump" and "forward"/"fast forward" (+ and
> -)
> -view-direction (up,straight)
> I also tried to jump directly into the hole in the wall
> I keep falling down.
> I know - the correct method may be hard to explain, but please
> -anybody- try!
> This seems to be the ultimate showstopper for me for an otherwise
> really beautiful mission. sob...
> Thanks for an answer

I got there by shooting the rope arrow into the side of the overhead beam,
climbed the rope, mantled onto the beam, squeezed through the hole, crawled
along the ledge, jumped into the bell tower.     After you get up onto the 
beam,
it's not a bad thing to save since it's a bit narrow until you get into the 
tower.
And it's a bit of a way to hit the ground...Garrett don't bounce too good 
sometimes. 
Re: Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36863
Author: flupp
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:48
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:13:52 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
wrote:


>I got there by shooting the rope arrow into the side of the overhead beam,
>climbed the rope, mantled onto the beam, 

exactly that is what i am trying since  mpff.. hours without success-
bloody falling down on my ass every time when i try to "mantle up"...
this sucks!

thanks for your answer!



>squeezed through the hole, crawled
>along the ledge, jumped into the bell tower.     After you get up onto the 
>beam,
>it's not a bad thing to save since it's a bit narrow until you get into the 
>tower.
>And it's a bit of a way to hit the ground...Garrett don't bounce too good 
>sometimes. 
>
Re: Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36864
Author: MosNot
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:40
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"flupp" <flupp@ohno.org> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:13:52 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I got there by shooting the rope arrow into the side of the overhead beam,
>>climbed the rope, mantled onto the beam,
>
> exactly that is what i am trying since  mpff.. hours without success-
> bloody falling down on my ass every time when i try to "mantle up"...
> this sucks!
>
> thanks for your answer!

Sometimes it's easier to mantle if you don't go all the way up to the arrow.
For some reason, the arrow (since it's at a slant) acts like a surface and
will throw you back. 
Re: Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36865
Author: Spud
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 07:20
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:40:27 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
wrote:

>
>"flupp" <flupp@ohno.org> wrote in message 
>news:jfm2o3pohlmncu2cfr6hh2kr2d5dqmgll2@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:13:52 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got there by shooting the rope arrow into the side of the overhead beam,
>>>climbed the rope, mantled onto the beam,
>>
>> exactly that is what i am trying since  mpff.. hours without success-
>> bloody falling down on my ass every time when i try to "mantle up"...
>> this sucks!
>>
>> thanks for your answer!
>
>Sometimes it's easier to mantle if you don't go all the way up to the arrow.
>For some reason, the arrow (since it's at a slant) acts like a surface and
>will throw you back. 
>
It's easier if the arrow is angled away from the vertical - stand back
from the target point when shooting, not directly under it.
Re: Mission: ------Seven Sisters-------- need help to mantle up a beam in the cathedral
#36866
Author: flupp
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:55
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:40:27 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
wrote:

>
>"flupp" <flupp@ohno.org> wrote in message 
>news:jfm2o3pohlmncu2cfr6hh2kr2d5dqmgll2@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:13:52 -0700, "MosNot" <StillNot@YourHouse>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got there by shooting the rope arrow into the side of the overhead beam,
>>>climbed the rope, mantled onto the beam,
>>
>> exactly that is what i am trying since  mpff.. hours without success-
>> bloody falling down on my ass every time when i try to "mantle up"...
>> this sucks!
>>
>> thanks for your answer!
>
>Sometimes it's easier to mantle if you don't go all the way up to the arrow.
>For some reason, the arrow (since it's at a slant) acts like a surface and
>will throw you back. 
>
Exactly that did the trick! instead of climbing as high as i could  i
jumped from a foot (or so) lower and indeed "manteled up"
..did that 3 times in a row  just to enjoy that "manteling up-feeling"
thanks to you both for your time

flupp
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