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*** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
    zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom entitled "Large
    Robot Thief2":

>  If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack to disable it. I
>counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!

How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with the blackjack, the bot
spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster than I can whack...

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On Sun, 01 Jan 06 22:11:39 -0700, "Tall Runner"
<Tall_Runner@bbs.S_p_a_m.boycot.S_p_a_m.no-ip.S_p_a_m.com> wrote:

>*** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
>    zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom entitled "Large
>    Robot Thief2":
>
>>  If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack to disable it. I
>>counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!
>
>How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with the blackjack, the bot
>spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster than I can whack...

Try attacking from a door way or cubby hole so he cannot get a clear shot.
You can often force them to shoot themselves if you get the positioning
right.  

Or use just one water arrow to temp knock them out before attacking.  Two
water arrows on the fire kills them, but if you leave the "body" there
without destroying it then guards may notice it.  Of course, smashing one
with a blackjack isn't quiet either, so you have to decide if it's worth
making all that noise.  A gas arrow in their fire will do them in as well,
but I usually save those for groups of guards.
-- 
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Michael Cecil wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jan 06 22:11:39 -0700, "Tall Runner"
> <Tall_Runner@bbs.S_p_a_m.boycot.S_p_a_m.no-ip.S_p_a_m.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>*** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
>>   zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom entitled "Large
>>   Robot Thief2":
>>
>>
>>> If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack to disable it. I
>>>counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!
>>
>>How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with the blackjack, the bot
>>spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster than I can whack...
> 
> 
> Try attacking from a door way or cubby hole so he cannot get a clear shot.
> You can often force them to shoot themselves if you get the positioning
> right.  
> 
> Or use just one water arrow to temp knock them out before attacking.  Two
> water arrows on the fire kills them, but if you leave the "body" there
> without destroying it then guards may notice it.  Of course, smashing one
> with a blackjack isn't quiet either, so you have to decide if it's worth
> making all that noise.  A gas arrow in their fire will do them in as well,
> but I usually save those for groups of guards.
  It would be nice to see an FM come out for T2 which would allow using 
several Gas arrows on lots of guards.
  One time I think I took out 6 guards with one arrow in T2. I think it 
was the one where you had to follow the guy with body guards. Haven't 
played it in a while, so don't recall the name of it.
Albert

Tall Runner wrote:
> *** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
>    zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom entitled "Large
>    Robot Thief2":
>
>>  If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack to disable it. I
>>counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!
>
> How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with the blackjack, the 
> bot
> spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster than I can 
> whack...

  As long as you are behind it and it isn't aware of you. Get as close to it 
and while keeping your finger on the W key start hitting it. You have to be 
quick and don't stop or yes it will turn around. Cout'em, 18 whacks and its 
out of commission!

"reborn rolla" <zzrollazz@King2.com> wrote in message
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> Tall Runner wrote:
>> *** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
>>    zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom
>>    entitled "Large Robot Thief2":
>>
>>>  If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack
>>>to disable it. I counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!
>>
>> How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with
>> the blackjack, the bot
>> spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster
>> than I can whack...
>
>  As long as you are behind it and it isn't aware of you.
> Get as close to it and while keeping your finger on the W
> key start hitting it. You have to be quick and don't stop
> or yes it will turn around. Cout'em, 18 whacks and its
> out of commission!

Don't forget to tell him, while you're whacking the
'bot, it's movements are jerky.  Plenty of time to
deal with it.  Sword is about half the whacks, but
not as fun.  But it is a fine way to attract attention.
When I saw your comment abouty the "W", I
had to think about that one.  I forgot that's a
movement key.  Long time ago, in a taffin'
place far far away, I began using the numerical
pad for movements.  Mouse is in the left hand
for gaming.  On the numerical pad, 2, 4, 6, 8
are used for direction movement, 1 and 3 used
to side step, 7 and 9 are for leaning, the 0 is
to jump, the .  is to crouch, and the + is to walk slow.
The reason I programed it that way, is because
using what most games suggest, I found I had
a tendency to drift over a key.  No fun getting
the snot beat out of you while continously hitting
the "E" key and wondering why I wasn't moving.

"Mos" <Not@YourHouse> wrote in message 
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> "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz@King2.com> wrote in message
> news:RSiuf.124797$2k.65431@pd7tw1no
>> Tall Runner wrote:
>>> *** On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:27:08 GMT,
>>>    zzrollazz@King2.com, gave us these words of wisdom
>>>    entitled "Large Robot Thief2":
>>>
>>>>  If you sneak up behind one you can use your blackjack
>>>>to disable it. I counted 18 hits to do one in. Awesome!
>>>
>>> How are you able to do this?  On the first whack with
>>> the blackjack, the bot
>>> spins around and starts shooting...and he shoots faster
>>> than I can whack...
>>
>>  As long as you are behind it and it isn't aware of you.
>> Get as close to it and while keeping your finger on the W
>> key start hitting it. You have to be quick and don't stop
>> or yes it will turn around. Cout'em, 18 whacks and its
>> out of commission!
>
> Don't forget to tell him, while you're whacking the
> 'bot, it's movements are jerky.  Plenty of time to
> deal with it.  Sword is about half the whacks, but
> not as fun.  But it is a fine way to attract attention.
> When I saw your comment abouty the "W", I
> had to think about that one.  I forgot that's a
> movement key.  Long time ago, in a taffin'
> place far far away, I began using the numerical
> pad for movements.  Mouse is in the left hand
> for gaming.  On the numerical pad, 2, 4, 6, 8
> are used for direction movement, 1 and 3 used
> to side step, 7 and 9 are for leaning, the 0 is
> to jump, the .  is to crouch, and the + is to walk slow.
> The reason I programed it that way, is because
> using what most games suggest, I found I had
> a tendency to drift over a key.  No fun getting
> the snot beat out of you while continously hitting
> the "E" key and wondering why I wasn't moving.

  Wow that must have took awhile to get the hang of? I use the universal 
standard for gaming on pc. WASD. Good thing about Thief is you can go to 
Options, controls and configure the way you want to! I use C for crouching.

  You use your left hand for mouse? I'm a righty. Always have my finger on 
the W key even when not walking. Only game that ever used the arrow keys for 
was Doom and that was a long time ago! Wore out 3 mouses (or is it mice?) on 
Diablo 2. Click,click,click,click etc. All you use on Diablo is the mouse. 
:(

  About attracting attention by hitting the robot, usually clear the field 
of guards before setting in on the bot. This must drive the "ghosters" nuts 
now. But hey they will kill you at a glance so why not do them first! 

"reborn rolla" <zzrollazz@King2.com> wrote in message
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> "Mos" <Not@YourHouse> wrote in message
> news:4ICdnWz3JK03DSfeRVn-iA@pcisys.net...
>> "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz@King2.com> wrote in message

>>>
>>>  As long as you are behind it and it isn't aware of you.
>>> Get as close to it and while keeping your finger on the
>>> W key start hitting it. You have to be quick and don't
>>> stop or yes it will turn around. Cout'em, 18 whacks and
>>> its out of commission!
>>
>> Don't forget to tell him, while you're whacking the
>> 'bot, it's movements are jerky.  Plenty of time to
>> deal with it.  Sword is about half the whacks, but
>> not as fun.  But it is a fine way to attract attention.
>> When I saw your comment abouty the "W", I
>> had to think about that one.  I forgot that's a
>> movement key.  Long time ago, in a taffin'
>> place far far away, I began using the numerical
>> pad for movements.  Mouse is in the left hand
>> for gaming.  On the numerical pad, 2, 4, 6, 8
>> are used for direction movement, 1 and 3 used
>> to side step, 7 and 9 are for leaning, the 0 is
>> to jump, the .  is to crouch, and the + is to walk slow.
>> The reason I programed it that way, is because
>> using what most games suggest, I found I had
>> a tendency to drift over a key.  No fun getting
>> the snot beat out of you while continously hitting
>> the "E" key and wondering why I wasn't moving.
>
>  Wow that must have took awhile to get the hang of? I use
> the universal standard for gaming on pc. WASD. Good thing
> about Thief is you can go to Options, controls and
> configure the way you want to! I use C for crouching.
>  You use your left hand for mouse? I'm a righty. Always
> have my finger on the W key even when not walking. Only
> game that ever used the arrow keys for was Doom and that
> was a long time ago! Wore out 3 mouses (or is it mice?)
> on Diablo 2. Click,click,click,click etc. All you use on
> Diablo is the mouse. :(

Being ambidextrous has some advantages.  I was
corry fisted until my senior year in high school.
Smashing your hand is not a good thing to do.
Had to learn to do a lot of things right handed.
I can now pick my nose and scratch my butt at
the same time !

He he he.  You don't want to use the blackjack on the gold ones in "The
Mystic Estate" mission.  They explode!

This thread reminds me the time I had a group of Hammerites and Combat
Bots fighting each other.  Guess who won.  It was the hammers because
their weapons are bash stem based (the blackjack also has this but the
intensity is weak).  It was funny to see that group of hammers just
hammering down the Combat bot. :-P

GORT wrote:

> He he he.  You don't want to use the blackjack on the gold ones in "The
> Mystic Estate" mission.  They explode!


  I have all the fm missions have played listed in a book. Mystic Estate I 
put a very hard sign beside and the number 0407. Gonna go and play it again 
cause you know our fm memory is about 3 days. :)



> This thread reminds me the time I had a group of Hammerites and Combat
> Bots fighting each other.  Guess who won.  It was the hammers because
> their weapons are bash stem based (the blackjack also has this but the
> intensity is weak).  It was funny to see that group of hammers just
> hammering down the Combat bot. :-P
> 

> Don't forget to tell him, while you're whacking the
> 'bot, it's movements are jerky.  Plenty of time to
> deal with it.  Sword is about half the whacks, but
> not as fun.  But it is a fine way to attract attention.
> When I saw your comment abouty the "W", I
> had to think about that one.  I forgot that's a
> movement key.  Long time ago, in a taffin'
> place far far away, I began using the numerical
> pad for movements.  Mouse is in the left hand
> for gaming.  On the numerical pad, 2, 4, 6, 8
> are used for direction movement, 1 and 3 used
> to side step, 7 and 9 are for leaning, the 0 is
> to jump, the .  is to crouch, and the + is to walk slow.
> The reason I programed it that way, is because
> using what most games suggest, I found I had
> a tendency to drift over a key.  No fun getting
> the snot beat out of you while continously hitting
> the "E" key and wondering why I wasn't moving.

I can't get on with the ol' WASD nonsense either. The keys aren't
exactly in line. The w is not right above the S!

Myself, I use the cursor keys. Up for forwards, down for back, and left 
and right keys take care of strafing duties. This is what I'm doing for T:DS

ctrl/shift for sneak/walk. 0 on the number pad for crouch, mouse wheel 
for right hand items, delete and insert (above cursor keys) to scroll 
through left hand items. return to use a left hand item. 1 on the number 
pad for jump. 4&5 on the number pad for leaning. square bracketss "[" & 
"]" for zooming in/out (old habbit from playing F18 Interceptor on the 
Amiga 500.. showing my age there...).

I think that's the lot.

I find using the cursor keys handy as there are a bunch of other keys 
around them that are far enough away that you don't hit them by 
accident, but conviently close enough, all arrange in arch around them 
cursor keys for all other functions.

Dont' expect many other people to get along with it though.

Daniel.

"Daniel C" <dontemailme@all.com> wrote in message
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> I can't get on with the ol' WASD nonsense either. The
> keys aren't exactly in line. The w is not right above the S!
>
> Myself, I use the cursor keys. Up for forwards, down for
> back, and left and right keys take care of strafing duties. This is what
> I'm doing for T:DS
> ctrl/shift for sneak/walk. 0 on the number pad for
> crouch, mouse wheel for right hand items, delete and insert (above cursor
> keys) to scroll through left hand items. return to use a
> left hand item. 1 on the number pad for jump. 4&5 on the
> number pad for leaning. square bracketss "[" & "]" for
> zooming in/out (old habbit from playing F18 Interceptor
> on the Amiga 500.. showing my age there...).
> I think that's the lot.
>
> I find using the cursor keys handy as there are a bunch
> of other keys around them that are far enough away that
> you don't hit them by accident, but conviently close enough, all arrange 
> in
> arch around them cursor keys for all other functions.
>
> Dont' expect many other people to get along with it
> though.
> Daniel.

Hate the WASD.  Fingers can drift over one key, then
you're in trouble.
Been using the number pad for years, mouse in the left hand.
0 for jump,  .  for crouch, + for walk, - for sneak, 7 for lean left,
9 for lean right.    /  for lean forward 

MosNot wrote:
>
> "Daniel C" <dontemailme@all.com> wrote in message
> news:LlQ7g.66490$wl.58461@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk
>
>
>> I can't get on with the ol' WASD nonsense either. The
>> keys aren't exactly in line. The w is not right above the S!
>>
>> Myself, I use the cursor keys. Up for forwards, down for
>> back, and left and right keys take care of strafing duties. This is what
>> I'm doing for T:DS
>> ctrl/shift for sneak/walk. 0 on the number pad for
>> crouch, mouse wheel for right hand items, delete and insert (above cursor
>> keys) to scroll through left hand items. return to use a
>> left hand item. 1 on the number pad for jump. 4&5 on the
>> number pad for leaning. square bracketss "[" & "]" for
>> zooming in/out (old habbit from playing F18 Interceptor
>> on the Amiga 500.. showing my age there...).
>> I think that's the lot.
>>
>> I find using the cursor keys handy as there are a bunch
>> of other keys around them that are far enough away that
>> you don't hit them by accident, but conviently close enough, all arrange 
>> in
>> arch around them cursor keys for all other functions.
>>
>> Dont' expect many other people to get along with it
>> though.
>> Daniel.
>
> Hate the WASD.  Fingers can drift over one key, then
> you're in trouble.
> Been using the number pad for years, mouse in the left hand.
> 0 for jump,  .  for crouch, + for walk, - for sneak, 7 for lean left,
> 9 for lean right.    /  for lean forward


  With most new games in the last 5 years they are standard WASD for 
movement. It blows away the arrow or number keys by far. For Thief 2 they 
used it also. I think Half-Life was the first to use them but maybe wrong. 
For Thief 2 I made the W the run key and shift the walk key. Also C for 
crouch and spacebar for jumping. Q for leaning left and E for right.

  If you sneak up to a large robot with its back turned and shoot 2 water 
arrows at it then it will become disabled also.