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On Tue, 06 May 2014 05:35:38 GMT, john.dsl@frontier.com (John Lewis)
wrote:

>On Mon, 5 May 2014 20:47:11 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>Since I had it in my list of unplayed Steam games, I decided to
>>>install and try it.  It loaded right up on Win 8.1 without a hitch.
>>
>>    Yeah, I just installed the GoG version under Win 8.1-64, then 
>>immediately installed the T3 Sneaky Upgrade 
>>http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138607
>>and the menu mouse icon shows properly, no other issues that I can see.  Be 
>>sure your desktop resolution is higher than whatever you set the game 
>>resolution to, and be aware there is no longer an 'Apply' button:  Quit the 
>>game to see resolution etc changes.  Damn!  I played the training mission, 
>>and could feel myself getting sucked into the Thief magic again, had to snap 
>>myself out of it.  I'll be replaying this series again soon!
>>
>>rms 
>>
>
>
>Advice to Chuck:-
>
>If you still have problems withe Win7 and the disc version of Thief3,
>I suggest you purchase the (drm-free) GOG version, currently $9.99. 
>GOG periodically puts the Thief series on sale for ~ $5 (or less)
>each..
>
> If you intend to install any significant 3rd-party mods to the
>game,.. such as the highly recommendable Sneaky Upgrade, DO NOT buy
>the Steam version. The Steam--DRM gyrations screw up the mod-install.
>See posting #165 in the TTLG Sneaky Upgrade thread for a rather nasty
>manual way of bypassing the Steam damage.
>
>John Lewis


Advice to Chuck:

Please use your best judgement when dealing with our own lovable John
Lewis.  He is not one of the shitcanees I told you about before --
I've never felt the urge to kill file him and I don't think I could in
his worst moment, because his blatant anti-Steam crusade taps into
something that invokes compassion and sympathy in almost any feeling
human, to the point that someone should make a PBS movie about him
(though I won't suggest anyone should watch it).

I like the guy in a weird way....
...Have you ever had a friend that you find both interesting but
perpetually in potty-training mode at the same time?  Like you put
them on the best-of list for certain friendship criteria, yet you
always wonder if by associating yourself with them you're going to get
"that call" in the middle of the night from all the wrong people
asking you for directives and finding out that they claimed you as
their legal guardian?  Something like the guy you knew in the 5th
grade who was witty and funny for his age like yourself at the time,
but when puberty came he was unathletic and socially awkward, and
these days you find him to still be driving the mid-90's Civic he's
had forever, still spends more time on comic collecting and gaming
than his career and still lives in his Mom's basement, yet he hasn't
done anything notoriously illegal yet?  Well now you'll understand my
friendship with John even if the physical profile from the
aforementioned Seth Rogan type of friend doesn't perfectly fit him.

John's issue is he hates Steam.  Deeply.
 He apparently once sent a resume to Valve about 8-9 years ago, and
received a very boilerplate rejection letter that for all we know may
have been sent by their HR team by mistake, yet he takes it very, VERY
personally.

He will advise you against Steam and steer you towards GOG.com at
every possible opportunity.  When GOG has a lower price, he will
highlight that.  In this case the Steam version is a buck cheaper
today (I actually purchased it for $2 which will happen to you
constantly if if you follow Steam sales).  He will try to justify the
extra dollar by trying to convince you that despite the fact that
Steam users' report excellent experience with applying mods
(http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2715838),
there is some obscure mod out there that is the only one that really
matters, and it simply will not work unless you pay an extra dollar to
buy it from a Polish company that already claimed they were going out
of business soon, only to tell us a few days later that it was all one
big Polack joke, that in truth they were only kidding.

I'm not going to tell you you should buy the Steam version of T3.. I
wouldn't pay that for a 2004 game unless I were going to get several
hours of nostalgia out of it.  I'm just saying its a buck cheaper than
GOG and I think you will care more about how well it loads and runs
(which always seems to be flawless with Steam games and their well
managed patch approach versus "download now, load up 10 years later
and roll the dice on whether it works") than whether you can run some
obscure mod without "steam damage" as John's spin goes.