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Preferred Units for Battle
#293088
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:00
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Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
units for the different races?

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Re: Preferred Units for Battle (SC2)
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Author: Don Freeman
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:01
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Don Freeman wrote:
> 
> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
> units for the different races?
> 

Sorry, I forgot to mention that this was for StarCraft 2
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Re: Preferred Units for Battle
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Author: ivanatwork
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:29
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Il 29/07/2010 22.00, Don Freeman ha scritto:
>
> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other
> units for the different races?
>

A table? Maybe but I already know what unit is best after the first 
Challenge missions ;)

Please note, you have to use a combiantion of two units sometimes.





Ivan.
Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
#293091
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:28
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ivanatwork wrote:
> Il 29/07/2010 22.00, Don Freeman ha scritto:
>>
>> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other
>> units for the different races?
>>
> 
> A table? Maybe but I already know what unit is best after the first 
> Challenge missions ;)
> 
> Please note, you have to use a combiantion of two units sometimes.
> 

I'm not all that great at RTS, but StarCraft is so damn cool I thought I 
would pick it up again with the new version.  I went through the first 
two challenge missions but couldn't figure out the right combination for 
the third one. And it gets pretty boring after about 5 tries.

The only way I am going to make it as the campaign game progresses 
(forget about online play, they don't have a tier low enough for me) is 
to have some sort of formula as to what units (or combination of units) 
work best against the various opposing units. Or at least some criteria 
as to how to match up air strength, armor, ground strength, etc...


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Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
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Author: ivanatwork
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:50
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Il 30/07/2010 1.28, Don Freeman ha scritto:

> I'm not all that great at RTS, but StarCraft is so damn cool I thought I
> would pick it up again with the new version. I went through the first
> two challenge missions but couldn't figure out the right combination for
> the third one. And it gets pretty boring after about 5 tries.
>
You have the suggestions in the help suystem. Just use the help menu and 
open the suggestions. I'm a real beginner so if I made it ;)

> to have some sort of formula as to what units (or combination of units)
> work best against the various opposing units. Or at least some criteria
> as to how to match up air strength, armor, ground strength, etc...
>
>
It's exactly what my friends told me: use the macros, use the right 
units ... and cross your fingers!
Please note: don't despair for multiplayer. IMHO you really have to end 
the campaign in normal difficulty before even try to play in multi.
I'm trying to progress so IMHO I know I will be a better player.

Skirmish will help me too but only after well ... did I say practice?


Ciao !





Ivan - Italy here.
Re: Preferred Units for Battle
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Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:34
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Don Freeman
<free...@cosmoslair.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
SCREEN!!!!:
>
>Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
>units for the different races?

If you hover the mouse over the unit icons you should see some info
regarding that, though you should take those with a grain of salt.
Re: Preferred Units for Battle
#293100
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:54
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MuuMiMan wrote:
> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Don Freeman
> <free...@cosmoslair.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
> SCREEN!!!!:
>> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
>> units for the different races?
> 
> If you hover the mouse over the unit icons you should see some info
> regarding that, though you should take those with a grain of salt.
> 

I've done that but by the time I've read those and done my internal 
calcs as to what best to match up with it, I've been overwhelmed by zerg 
units.  Damn those buggers are fast.  I was hoping I could have some 
sort of cheat sheet for quick referral.  If needs be I will make my own 
up first I wanted to see if it had already been done.

I can figure it out on the fly when it is Terran vs Terran, as the 
weapons and maneuverability are inherently obvious.  But when it comes 
to the other races... not so much.

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Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
#293093
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:59
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ivanatwork wrote:
> Il 30/07/2010 1.28, Don Freeman ha scritto:
> 
>> I'm not all that great at RTS, but StarCraft is so damn cool I thought I
>> would pick it up again with the new version. I went through the first
>> two challenge missions but couldn't figure out the right combination for
>> the third one. And it gets pretty boring after about 5 tries.
>>
> You have the suggestions in the help suystem. Just use the help menu and 
> open the suggestions. I'm a real beginner so if I made it ;)

I did that but on the last of the third I just couldn't get the numbers 
correct for the combinations.


> It's exactly what my friends told me: use the macros, use the right 
> units ... and cross your fingers!


I had heard elsewhere that setting keyboard macros was essential also, 
that's something I will have to work on it seems, thanks for the tip.

At least crossing my fingers is something I have had plenty of practice 
doing <G>.

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Re: Preferred Units for Battle
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Author: nmenry
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:13
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In article <4c5303da$0$1627$742e...@news.sonic.net>, 
free...@cosmoslair.com says...
> 
> MuuMiMan wrote:
> > IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Don Freeman
> > <free...@cosmoslair.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
> > SCREEN!!!!:
> >> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
> >> units for the different races?
> > 
> > If you hover the mouse over the unit icons you should see some info
> > regarding that, though you should take those with a grain of salt.
> > 
> 
> I've done that but by the time I've read those and done my internal 
> calcs as to what best to match up with it, I've been overwhelmed by zerg 
> units.  Damn those buggers are fast.  I was hoping I could have some 
> sort of cheat sheet for quick referral.  If needs be I will make my own 
> up first I wanted to see if it had already been done.
> 
> I can figure it out on the fly when it is Terran vs Terran, as the 
> weapons and maneuverability are inherently obvious.  But when it comes 
> to the other races... not so much.

figuring it out yourself is part of the fun, isn't it?
Re: Preferred Units for Battle
#293102
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:25
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nmenry wrote:
> In article <4c5303da$0$1627$742e...@news.sonic.net>, 
> free...@cosmoslair.com says...
>> MuuMiMan wrote:
>>> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Don Freeman
>>> <free...@cosmoslair.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
>>> SCREEN!!!!:
>>>> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other 
>>>> units for the different races?
>>> If you hover the mouse over the unit icons you should see some info
>>> regarding that, though you should take those with a grain of salt.
>>>
>> I've done that but by the time I've read those and done my internal 
>> calcs as to what best to match up with it, I've been overwhelmed by zerg 
>> units.  Damn those buggers are fast.  I was hoping I could have some 
>> sort of cheat sheet for quick referral.  If needs be I will make my own 
>> up first I wanted to see if it had already been done.
>>
>> I can figure it out on the fly when it is Terran vs Terran, as the 
>> weapons and maneuverability are inherently obvious.  But when it comes 
>> to the other races... not so much.
> 
> figuring it out yourself is part of the fun, isn't it?

Yeah, but it can be a painful form of fun.

I think I have the zergling rush combo figured out: firebrats and 
marines (for the swarm).  But I think this will only work for the 
campaign as I think the firebrat is not available in online play.  If so 
what would be a good substitute?

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Re: Preferred Units for Battle
#293103
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:06
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Don Freeman
<free...@cosmoslair.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
SCREEN!!!!:
>
>I think I have the zergling rush combo figured out: firebrats and 
>marines (for the swarm).  But I think this will only work for the 
>campaign as I think the firebrat is not available in online play.  If so 
>what would be a good substitute?

Wall yourself in with rax+ supply depots.
Re: Preferred Units for Battle
#293097
Author: Pete B
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:34
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In article <4c5200cc$0$12117$4faf...@reader4.news.tin.it>, 
ivana...@gmx.com says...
> Il 29/07/2010 22.00, Don Freeman ha scritto:
> >
> > Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other
> > units for the different races?
> >
> 
> A table? Maybe but I already know what unit is best after the first 
> Challenge missions ;)
> 
> Please note, you have to use a combiantion of two units sometimes.
> 

Yeah, if you gold on the challenge missions you should know it by heart 
:)
Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
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Author: Pete B
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:35
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In article <4c520e8e$0$1672$742e...@news.sonic.net>, 
free...@cosmoslair.com says...
> 
> The only way I am going to make it as the campaign game progresses 
> (forget about online play, they don't have a tier low enough for me) is 
> to have some sort of formula as to what units (or combination of units) 
> work best against the various opposing units. Or at least some criteria 
> as to how to match up air strength, armor, ground strength, etc...
> 

Oh come now, you can set the difficulty to "casual" - the enemies are 
fewer and only attack on sundays and your soldiers are stronger and chew 
bubblegum - you should be able to do that easily :)
Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
#293096
Author: Don Freeman
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:14
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Pete B wrote:
> In article <4c520e8e$0$1672$742e...@news.sonic.net>, 
> free...@cosmoslair.com says...
>> The only way I am going to make it as the campaign game progresses 
>> (forget about online play, they don't have a tier low enough for me) is 
>> to have some sort of formula as to what units (or combination of units) 
>> work best against the various opposing units. Or at least some criteria 
>> as to how to match up air strength, armor, ground strength, etc...
>>
> 
> Oh come now, you can set the difficulty to "casual" - the enemies are 
> fewer and only attack on sundays and your soldiers are stronger and chew 
> bubblegum - you should be able to do that easily :)

I usually play each missing on casual the first time through then try it 
at the "Normal" setting.

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Re: Preferred Units for Battle
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Author: ivanatwork
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:42
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Il 06/08/2010 20.34, Pete B ha scritto:
> In article<4c5200cc$0$12117$4faf...@reader4.news.tin.it>,
> ivana...@gmx.com says...
>> Il 29/07/2010 22.00, Don Freeman ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Is there an online table that shows what units are best against other
>>> units for the different races?
>>>
>>
>> A table? Maybe but I already know what unit is best after the first
>> Challenge missions ;)
>>
>> Please note, you have to use a combiantion of two units sometimes.
>>
>
> Yeah, if you gold on the challenge missions you should know it by heart
> :)

I'm still learning how to gold the challenge missions.
I told you I'm a newbie ... but yes, it's also part of the fun!





Ivan
Re: Preferred Units for Battle for SC2
#293094
Author: John Doe
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:43
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Don Freeman <free...@cosmoslair.com> wrote: 

> ivanatwork wrote: 

>> It's exactly what my friends told me: use the macros, use the
>> right units ... and cross your fingers! 
> 
> 
> I had heard elsewhere that setting keyboard macros was essential
> also, that's something I will have to work on it seems, thanks
> for the tip. 

Starcraft 2 includes some form of macroing? 
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