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Friar Broccoli wrote:

> After trying for probably more than a year:
>
> I have just succeeded in completing the 10th Terrian mission from
> the Original StarCraft in 29min and 46sec (under 30 minutes) after
> completely destroying all buildings from both Alpha Squadron and
> Elite Guard as well as (I am pretty sure) all their personnel.

Congrats . . 

BTW . . .  If it's taking you more than a year to complete any mission
you might want to at least seek out some advice or something.

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On Jun 22, 5:32 pm, Luc The Perverse
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> Friar Broccoli wrote:
>> After trying for probably more than a year:
>
>> I have just succeeded in completing the 10th Terrian mission from
>> the Original StarCraft in 29min and 46sec (under 30 minutes) after
>> completely destroying all buildings from both Alpha Squadron and
>> Elite Guard as well as (I am pretty sure) all their personnel.

 .

> Congrats . .

Ahh, that's what I want: praise and acknowledgment.

> BTW . . .  If it's taking you more than a year to complete any mission
> you might want to at least seek out some advice or something.

Hmm, that doesn't look like praise.


Advice?  Well since you're offering:

Now that I have achieved my goal in life,
what should I do now?



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Friar Broccoli wrote:
> After trying for probably more than a year:
> 
> I have just succeeded in completing the 10th Terrian mission from
> the Original StarCraft in 29min and 46sec (under 30 minutes) after
> completely destroying all buildings from both Alpha Squadron and
> Elite Guard as well as (I am pretty sure) all their personnel.

The Protoss campaign is a lot harder in my opinion .... until you got 
carriers.

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On Jun 23, 1:18 am, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Friar Broccoli wrote:
> > After trying for probably more than a year:
>
> > I have just succeeded in completing the 10th Terrian mission from
> > the Original StarCraft in 29min and 46sec (under 30 minutes) after
> > completely destroying all buildings from both Alpha Squadron and
> > Elite Guard as well as (I am pretty sure) all their personnel.
>
> The Protoss campaign is a lot harder in my opinion .... until you got
> carriers.

Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
in the lower right corner?

I agree, it's pretty hard.
What's your fasted time if you try destroying everything else
before destroying the last two Nexus?

> Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
> Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
> in the lower right corner?
> I agree, it's pretty hard.
> What's your fasted time if you try destroying everything else
> before destroying the last two Nexus?

I felt intimidated in the first mission of Protoss
campaign (classic, not broodwars) .. :)

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"Friar Broccoli" <Eli...@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Now that I have achieved my goal in life,
> what should I do now?

Get Guitar Hero and make new goals with that while you wait for StarCraft 2. 

>> Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
>> Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
>> in the lower right corner?
> I felt intimidated in the first mission of Protoss
> campaign (classic, not broodwars) .. :)

Correction: mission 5 of Protoss campaign, Starcraft basic.

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Broccoli <Eli...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
SCREEN!!!!:
>
>Now that I have achieved my goal in life,
>what should I do now?

www.iccup.com


or you could just kill yourself pre-emptively and save yourself from
much frustration

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

>>> Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
>>> Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
>>> in the lower right corner?
>> I felt intimidated in the first mission of Protoss
>> campaign (classic, not broodwars) .. :)
>
> Correction: mission 5 of Protoss campaign, Starcraft basic.
>

Without a point of reference, the mission number doesn't do much for me.

And I am clearly too lazy to attempt to look it up

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> Without a point of reference, the mission number doesn't do much for me.
> And I am clearly too lazy to attempt to look it up

OK, I really checked this time. It's mission 7 of Protoss compaign 
(Homeland), the first real mission of Dark Templars. It's Protoss vs 
Protoss.

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 > > Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
 > > Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
 > > in the lower right corner?
 > OK, I really checked this time. It's mission 7 of Protoss compaign
 > (Homeland), the first real mission of Dark Templars. It's Protoss vs
 > Protoss.


I think it's what you said. But ... I am not supposed to know
where the Nexus is in the very beginning... :)

IN the beginning, how did you defend your base? The Conclave sent
a reaver, 2 dragoons, a few probes and an observer to start the first 
attack.

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On Jul 6, 7:43 am, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is that the one you can win in about 2 minutes by sending
>>> Zeratul and the 4 Dark Templars down to destroy the Nexus
>>> in the lower right corner?
>> OK, I really checked this time. It's mission 7 of Protoss compaign
>> (Homeland), the first real mission of Dark Templars. It's Protoss vs
>> Protoss.
>
> I think it's what you said. But ... I am not supposed to know
> where the Nexus is in the very beginning... :)
>
> IN the beginning, how did you defend your base? The Conclave sent
> a reaver, 2 dragoons, a few probes and an observer to start the first
> attack.

First if you're having so much trouble you probably need to read this:
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Hotkey

Second:
You NEVER stop building probes until you have about 25 per Nexus.

In this case:
I move my 3 Must_Survive characters back of the minerals although
I allow Felix to chase any Scouts that get inside the walls and very
rarely let Tassadar lightning reavers but frequently get him killed
in the process.


I immediately:
- send a probe to build a Nexus near the minerals/gas to the right.
- upgrade zealot speed in Citadel; dragoon range in Core; and shield
level in Forge.

I put my 4 Dark templars to the right of the gate and 4 dragoons
in the gate sending my observer, scout and 4-6 zealots to the
ground above the new nexus, however in your case I would put two
of each in the two locations.

When a Reaver attacks, you attack it first and ignore everything else.
The advantage of a mixed attack is that the Reaver can kill only one
attack group at a time: usually zealots (who arrive first),
Dark Templars, and then Dragoons.

I also build three or four new cannons; 2-3 above the new Nexus
and one behind the Nexus to keep attackers busy while I move in
more defense.

After that I spend 15-20 minutes mostly focused on upgrading and
collecting minerals while constructing just enough dragoons, zealots
and templars to maintain defense (Scouts are a waste of money).

At about the 1/2 hour mark I am maxed out for units with about
3 dozen dragons, 1 dozen zealots, and 10-12 Templars.  I start
my attack by Hallucinating 30-40 zealots which I MOVE (NOT attack)
into the base on the left edge.  This causes the Arbiters to use up
most of their freezes and reduces Reaver magazines.

Immediately after that I convert the Templars to Archons, and
then attack with ALL my zealots, Dragoons, Dark Templars (if any
remain) and Archons (when they become available).

Since I usually have 9 or 10 GateWays built at this point
(placement is important to prevent blockages) I start building
new dragoons as soon as troops start dying.

I also load 16 probes onto 2 shuttles and move them down to
the conquered red base, where I immediately build a new Nexus
so I don't run out of minerals and Gas.

Since Red on the right is now depleted from trying to defend the
left you should attack their within minutes.

In the best case, I can destroy everything on the map (which
means destroying the last red and yellow Nexus within seconds of
each other) in under 40 minutes, and always under 50 minutes.


To succeed you need practice, but since you will never do
anything more important with your life ...

 Hope this helps;

 Friar Broccoli
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On Jul 5, 3:25 pm,
ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi (MuuMiMan)
wrote:
> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Friar
> Broccoli <Eli...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
> SCREEN!!!!:
>
>
>
> >Now that I have achieved my goal in life,
> >what should I do now?
>
> www.iccup.com
>
> or you could just kill yourself pre-emptively and save yourself from
> much frustration

Since humanity can continue to exist only so long as I am
aware of them, this may not be the best of plans.

Thanks for your contribution anyway.

 Friar Broccoli
 Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada  Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
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> In the best case, I can destroy everything on the map (which
> means destroying the last red and yellow Nexus within seconds of
> each other) in under 40 minutes, and always under 50 minutes.

Thanks for the tips.

> To succeed you need practice, but since you will never do
> anything more important with your life ...

I would not call playing a game an "important with your life". It's a 
good experience, but definitely not reality. :)

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On Jul 7, 4:23 am, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In the best case, I can destroy everything on the map (which
> > means destroying the last red and yellow Nexus within seconds of
> > each other) in under 40 minutes, and always under 50 minutes.
>
> Thanks for the tips.
>
> > To succeed you need practice, but since you will never do
> > anything more important with your life ...
>
> I would not call playing a game an "important with your life". It's a
> good experience, but definitely not reality. :)

Reality?  Have you found a place the rest of us don't know about?

>> I would not call playing a game an "important with your life". It's a
>> good experience, but definitely not reality. :)
> Reality?  Have you found a place the rest of us don't know about?

The center of the Earth? :)

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

>>> I would not call playing a game an "important with your life". It's a
>>> good experience, but definitely not reality. :)
>> Reality?  Have you found a place the rest of us don't know about?
>
> The center of the Earth? :)
>

This is a blatant troll

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