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18 total messages Started by Isaac Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:49
Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292389
Author: Isaac
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:49
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Click here to see what im talking about.
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=329576204C9E42289967E79E0E7C9A2D

I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292390
Author: Kocureq
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:46
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Isaac pisze:

> I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
> on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?

I tried playing Red Alert on Tablet PC using pen as a pointer and it 
wasn't that good. If you don't have external keyboard then scrolling the 
map is really annoying, right-clicking the pen isn't as fast as when 
using mouse, generally it's slower than using mouse. Nice to play with, 
but not for serious play.

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Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292388
Author: Kocureq
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:47
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Isaac pisze:

> I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
> on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?

I tried playing Red Alert on Tablet PC using pen as a pointer and it 
wasn't that good. If you don't have external keyboard then scrolling the 
map is really annoying, right-clicking the pen isn't as fast as when 
using mouse, generally it's slower than using mouse. Nice to play with, 
but not for serious play.

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Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292394
Author: Isaac
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:29
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On Jul 8, 6:47 am, Kocureq <a....@w.stopce.pl> wrote:
> Isaac pisze:
>
> > I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
> > on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?
>
> I tried playing Red Alert on Tablet PC using pen as a pointer and it
> wasn't that good. If you don't have external keyboard then scrolling the
> map is really annoying, right-clicking the pen isn't as fast as when
> using mouse, generally it's slower than using mouse. Nice to play with,
> but not for serious play.
>
> --
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did you try just using your fingers or just the pen. I'm not familiar
with command an conquer, but it would seem that it could be faster if
you kept one hand near the min map and used your fingers to click/box
units and click commands.
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292393
Author: Zealot The Crazy Lui
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:17
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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0000, Isaac <IsaacG...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>did you try just using your fingers or just the pen. I'm not familiar
>with command an conquer, but it would seem that it could be faster if
>you kept one hand near the min map and used your fingers to click/box
>units and click commands.

tablets don't respond to fingers, just the stylus, or standalone
tablets usually also come with a mouse as well.
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Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292395
Author: Luc The Perverse
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:37
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"Isaac" <IsaacG...@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1183904959.058303.214100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 8, 6:47 am, Kocureq <a....@w.stopce.pl> wrote:
>> Isaac pisze:
>>
>> > I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
>> > on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?
>>
>> I tried playing Red Alert on Tablet PC using pen as a pointer and it
>> wasn't that good. If you don't have external keyboard then scrolling the
>> map is really annoying, right-clicking the pen isn't as fast as when
>> using mouse, generally it's slower than using mouse. Nice to play with,
>> but not for serious play.
>>
>> --
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>
> did you try just using your fingers or just the pen. I'm not familiar
> with command an conquer, but it would seem that it could be faster if
> you kept one hand near the min map and used your fingers to click/box
> units and click commands.

I have never used a tablet PC - but if right clicking is delayed then it 
will screw you up.  You will need one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the 
"pointer device" - so if you can't right click with the hand holding the pen 
then you will be totally screwed.

--
LTP

:) 
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292368
Author: Zealot The Crazy Lui
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:47
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:37:44 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>I have never used a tablet PC - but if right clicking is delayed then it 
>will screw you up.  You will need one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the 
>"pointer device" - so if you can't right click with the hand holding the pen 
>then you will be totally screwed.

Any decent tablet has a stylus with a right click button.... it's not
as easy as a right click on a mouse, but it's there...
--
"No I'm saying that I'm a cow dung." - Stephen "Suupernuubie" Ung
"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP

MSN:ktw...@hotmail.com (BUT DON'T SEND E-MAIL!) YIM: ktwilson AIM: YahooKyleW
Zealot the Crazy Lui
Grand 16-Star General and overall director of AGSC operations for the Pronoun Army(and webmaster)
http://pronounarmy.homestead.com/ http://crazyzealot.kicks-ass.net/
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Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292377
Author: Luc The Perverse
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:30
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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <yahooNOk...@jeemaledotcom.com> wrote in message 
news:ksb393ho8kjibt6loq31pdsg7og420mt65@4ax.com...
>>I have never used a tablet PC - but if right clicking is delayed then it
>>will screw you up.  You will need one hand on the keyboard, one hand on 
>>the
>>"pointer device" - so if you can't right click with the hand holding the 
>>pen
>>then you will be totally screwed.
>
> Any decent tablet has a stylus with a right click button.... it's not
> as easy as a right click on a mouse, but it's there...

I know why I am not as good as Muey and Owie - it is because I have shitty 
mice.  But some day I am going to buy an expensive "good" mouse

--
LTP

:) 
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292386
Author: Isaac
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:21
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On Jul 8, 10:47 pm, Zealot The Crazy Lui
<yahooNOk...@jeemaledotcom.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:37:44 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
>
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
> >I have never used a tablet PC - but if right clicking is delayed then it
> >will screw you up.  You will need one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the
> >"pointer device" - so if you can't right click with the hand holding the pen
> >then you will be totally screwed.
>
> Any decent tablet has a stylus with a right click button.... it's not
> as easy as a right click on a mouse, but it's there...
> --
> "No I'm saying that I'm a cow dung." - Stephen "Suupernuubie" Ung
> "Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
> "Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP
>
> MSN:ktw...@hotmail.com (BUT DON'T SEND E-MAIL!) YIM: ktwilson AIM: YahooKyleW
> Zealot the Crazy Lui
> Grand 16-Star General and overall director of AGSC operations for the Pronoun Army(and webmaster)http://pronounarmy.homestead.com/http://crazyzealot.kicks-ass.net/
> re-vamped sig 7D7h.5h.15h

I know right clicking is a fast move command, but i dont think it
needed if you can quickly tap the move icon with a finger strike. The
same gose with all the other buttons. The icons them selves all become
fancy looking short commands. They've only been moved from the
keyboard to the monitor.
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292391
Author: Zealot The Crazy Lui
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:04
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:21:02 -0700, Isaac <IsaacG...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I know right clicking is a fast move command, but i dont think it
>needed if you can quickly tap the move icon with a finger strike. The
>same gose with all the other buttons. The icons them selves all become
>fancy looking short commands. They've only been moved from the
>keyboard to the monitor.

Please note the post in which I said,
"Tablets don't respond to fingers, just the stylus, or standalone
tablets usually also come with a mouse as well."

If you're thinking some more primitive touch screen thingy (the kind
that are usually much less accurate and don't work with a stylus) then
that's a different thing entirely.
--
"No I'm saying that I'm a cow dung." - Stephen "Suupernuubie" Ung
"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"Yes - I need red hot gay loving" - LTP

MSN:ktw...@hotmail.com (BUT DON'T SEND E-MAIL!) YIM: ktwilson AIM: YahooKyleW
Zealot the Crazy Lui
Grand 16-Star General and overall director of AGSC operations for the Pronoun Army(and webmaster)
http://pronounarmy.homestead.com/ http://crazyzealot.kicks-ass.net/
re-vamped sig 7D7h.5h.15h
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292399
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:20
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Isaac
<IsaacG...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
SCREEN!!!!:
>Click here to see what im talking about.
>http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=329576204C9E42289967E79E0E7C9A2D
>
>I was buying it for graphic art reasons, but im wondering if starcraft
>on a touch screen might be better than a mouse. Ur thoughts?

Would probably suck even after getting used to it,  on top of you
probably not being able to use the keyboard at the same time, making
you inevitably ending up as a laughing stock for your opponents.
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292380
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:38
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER "Luc The
Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> DUMPED HIS GHEYE
SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <yahooNOk...@jeemaledotcom.com> wrote in message 
>news:ksb393ho8kjibt6loq31pdsg7og420mt65@4ax.com...
>>>I have never used a tablet PC - but if right clicking is delayed then it
>>>will screw you up.  You will need one hand on the keyboard, one hand on 
>>>the
>>>"pointer device" - so if you can't right click with the hand holding the 
>>>pen
>>>then you will be totally screwed.
>>
>> Any decent tablet has a stylus with a right click button.... it's not
>> as easy as a right click on a mouse, but it's there...
>
>I know why I am not as good as Muey and Owie - it is because I have shitty 
>mice.  But some day I am going to buy an expensive "good" mouse

You are not good because you have a shitty mouse (but it may be a
(very slight) contributing factor), but mearly  just because you just
are shitty at the game~ :)
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292392
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:40
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Isaac
<IsaacG...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
SCREEN!!!!:
>
>I know right clicking is a fast move command, but i dont think it
>needed if you can quickly tap the move icon with a finger strike. The
>same gose with all the other buttons. The icons them selves all become
>fancy looking short commands. They've only been moved from the
>keyboard to the monitor.

Well, might work for single player.

I'd recommend you stay the fuck away from even the most basic
opponents in MP, though :).
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292397
Author: Luc The Perverse
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:13
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"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> wrote 
in message news:raag939mkldthj57un60d5hrubm1se9bbe@4ax.com...
> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Isaac
> <IsaacG...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
> SCREEN!!!!:
>>
>>I know right clicking is a fast move command, but i dont think it
>>needed if you can quickly tap the move icon with a finger strike. The
>>same gose with all the other buttons. The icons them selves all become
>>fancy looking short commands. They've only been moved from the
>>keyboard to the monitor.
>
> Well, might work for single player.
>
> I'd recommend you stay the fuck away from even the most basic
> opponents in MP, though :).

Like me?1

--
LTP

:) 
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292396
Author: Luc The Perverse
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:13
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"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> wrote 
in message news:p62g93hipvcg1rdk9r0unrm687tv1qrfmo@4ax.com...
> You are not good because you have a shitty mouse *SNIP*

Glad you agree

--
LTP

:) 
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292374
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:54
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER "Luc The
Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> DUMPED HIS GHEYE
SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> wrote 
>in message news:p62g93hipvcg1rdk9r0unrm687tv1qrfmo@4ax.com...
>> You are not good because you have a shitty mouse *SNIP*
>
>Glad you agree

Damn english.
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292398
Author: ihatespamandyoumustremov... MuuM...
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:55
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IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER "Luc The
Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> DUMPED HIS GHEYE
SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> wrote 
>in message news:raag939mkldthj57un60d5hrubm1se9bbe@4ax.com...
>> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Isaac
>> <IsaacG...@gmail.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR
>> SCREEN!!!!:
>>>
>>>I know right clicking is a fast move command, but i dont think it
>>>needed if you can quickly tap the move icon with a finger strike. The
>>>same gose with all the other buttons. The icons them selves all become
>>>fancy looking short commands. They've only been moved from the
>>>keyboard to the monitor.
>>
>> Well, might work for single player.
>>
>> I'd recommend you stay the fuck away from even the most basic
>> opponents in MP, though :).
>
>Like me?1

Probably people even worse than you. That's pretty bad, no? =)
Re: Starcraft on a Laptop Tablet
#292387
Author: Luc The Perverse
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:19
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"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> wrote 
in message news:3rnk939vrm1msm82p0mr7a5se8lt5qip39@4ax.com...
> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER "Luc The
> Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> DUMPED HIS GHEYE
> SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>>"MuuMiMan" <ihatespamandyoumustremov...@mbnet.fi> 
>>wrote
>>in message news:p62g93hipvcg1rdk9r0unrm687tv1qrfmo@4ax.com...
>>> You are not good because you have a shitty mouse *SNIP*
>>
>>Glad you agree
>
> Damn english.

Honestly English is pretty fucky in this situation

If you say "you are not bad because you have a shitty mouse"

it is ambiguous.  Either I am "Not bad - and the reason is because I have a 
shitty mouse (which I admit doesn't make much sense)  or I am bad but it is 
not because I have a shitty mouse. (Which is obviously what you meant)

You could say " You are not 'not good because you have a shitty mouse'" and 
the punctuation could help, but saying not twice in a row is uber gay.

If I were revising I would change it to:

You suck and it has nothing to do with your stupid fucking mouse, you 
pathetic piece of stupid shit.

This is far clearer and lacks the original ambiguity

--
LTP

:) 
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