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"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:4477d8b7$1@clear.net.nz...
> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), I've 
> been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not really doing 
> what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in case you're 
> wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont be seeing the 
> back of me :-p).
>
> Anyways I'll be moving out of where I am shortly (and loosing the 2mbs 
> cable connection that I have access to) and will probably go with a 
> wireless provider (simply for the flexibility, as I can't guarantee 
> staying in any one place for too long (most wired broadband plan's require 
> a 12 month contract here, and have a reconnection fee)), which doesn't 
> have a news server. My question is, is there any good, cheap (preferably 
> free) news servers that I can hook into (Google and other web based 
> systems are not an option)? I'd rather have complete control over the 
> newsgroups I see.
>
> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), I 
> won't have an issue.

Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that is). You 
won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss anything even if you 
come back after 10 years.

> Just a word of warning, I have created a bot that currently records all 
> that goes on here (and some day may post here as well (AI bug strikes 
> again!)).

All your bots are belongs to us!
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Sat, 27 May 2006 16:42:33 +1200, Marsh_lion
<marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:

>As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
>everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), 
>I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not really 
>doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in case 
>you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont be 
>seeing the back of me :-p).
>
>Anyways I'll be moving out of where I am shortly (and loosing the 2mbs 
>cable connection that I have access to) and will probably go with a 
>wireless provider (simply for the flexibility, as I can't guarantee 
>staying in any one place for too long (most wired broadband plan's 
>require a 12 month contract here, and have a reconnection fee)), which 
>doesn't have a news server. My question is, is there any good, cheap 
>(preferably free) news servers that I can hook into (Google and other 
>web based systems are not an option)? I'd rather have complete control 
>over the newsgroups I see.

*shrug* I use APN because it's cheap. $3/month gets you 7 GB/month,
it's very fast, and retention is pretty good.
(http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php)

I looked for a while but was unable to find any free news server that
had any groups that I wanted. You might find one if you look
better/longer than I did, but the pay ones are cheap enough that I
didn't want to bother. Plus, you'll never find a free one with binary
access and most of them are fairly slow.

>If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), I 
>won't have an issue.
>
>Just a word of warning, I have created a bot that currently records all 
>that goes on here (and some day may post here as well (AI bug strikes 
>again!)).

G00t luck. :D
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Steven Ung wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), I 
>> won't have an issue.
> 
> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that is). You 
> won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss anything even if you 
> come back after 10 years.
> 
Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access as 
it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather my 56k 
modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed it pumps out).

>> Just a word of warning, I have created a bot that currently records all 
>> that goes on here (and some day may post here as well (AI bug strikes 
>> again!)).
> 
> All your bots are belongs to us!

All your people belong to us bots!
--
Marsh Lion
Programmer extrondinare

Marsh_lion wrote:
> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), 
> I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not really 
> doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in case 
> you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont be 
> seeing the back of me :-p).


Bah! Competitor!

IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Spyderizer
<n...@spam.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>Marsh_lion wrote:
>> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
>> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), 
>> I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not really 
>> doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in case 
>> you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont be 
>> seeing the back of me :-p).
>
>Bah! Competitor!

You pepole missed the IT boom by six years.

MuuMiMan wrote:
> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Spyderizer
> <n...@spam.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
>>> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), 
>>> I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not really 
>>> doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in case 
>>> you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont be 
>>> seeing the back of me :-p).
>> Bah! Competitor!
> 
> You pepole missed the IT boom by six years.

There's still enough to go around, it's just that entering is a little 
harder now.

Marsh_lion wrote:
> Steven Ung wrote:
>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message
>>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), I 
>>> won't have an issue.
>>
>> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that 
>> is). You won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss 
>> anything even if you come back after 10 years.
>>
> Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access as 
> it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather my 56k 
> modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed it pumps out).

The few. The poor.  Those of us still on dial-up. <sigh>

Tom Schluter wrote:
> Marsh_lion wrote:
>> Steven Ung wrote:
>>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message
>>>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), 
>>>> I won't have an issue.
>>>
>>> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that 
>>> is). You won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss 
>>> anything even if you come back after 10 years.
>>>
>> Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access as 
>> it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather my 56k 
>> modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed it pumps 
>> out).
> 
> The few. The poor.  Those of us still on dial-up. <sigh>
> 
I must agree, having been there, done that and wanting to throw away the 
tee-shirt.

--]
Marsh Lion
Programmer extraordinare

Spyderizer wrote:
> MuuMiMan wrote:
>> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Spyderizer
>> <n...@spam.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>>> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
>>>> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to 
>>>> get), I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, 
>>>> not really doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. 
>>>> Just in case you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so 
>>>> you wont be seeing the back of me :-p).
>>> Bah! Competitor!
>>
>> You pepole missed the IT boom by six years.
> 
> There's still enough to go around, it's just that entering is a little 
> harder now.

Oh so true. I finished my degree about 3 years ago (when there were a 
few too many of us). Nowadays (certainly from my experience (in 
Wellington, NZ at least)) there is a shortage, but they don't want to 
train anyone new (the old adage of to get experience, you must first 
have experience).

Just out of curiosity Spyda, where are you focusing your job hunt (or is 
it everywhere)? I've focused on the Wellington Region (being that I'm 
currently in Lower Hutt).

--
Marsh Lion
Programmer extraordinare

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:447d1994$1@clear.net.nz...
> Spyderizer wrote:
>> MuuMiMan wrote:
>>> IN TEH PALECE KNOWEN AS alt.games.starcraft, TEH FAGGORTER Spyderizer
>>> <n...@spam.com> DUMPED HIS GHEYE SHIET ON MY COMPUTAR SCREEN!!!!:
>>>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>>>> As you probably know, I'm looking for work as a programmer, but as 
>>>>> everybody wants someone with experience (that I'm struggling to get), 
>>>>> I've been forced to do temporary work (short term contracts, not 
>>>>> really doing what I want to do) to keep the money coming in. Just in 
>>>>> case you're wondering, I do have enough money to get by (so you wont 
>>>>> be seeing the back of me :-p).
>>>> Bah! Competitor!
>>>
>>> You pepole missed the IT boom by six years.
>>
>> There's still enough to go around, it's just that entering is a little 
>> harder now.
>
> Oh so true. I finished my degree about 3 years ago (when there were a few 
> too many of us). Nowadays (certainly from my experience (in Wellington, NZ 
> at least)) there is a shortage, but they don't want to train anyone new 
> (the old adage of to get experience, you must first have experience).

That is exactly what I feel the candidates must have (experience) even 
though when I start up on this forsaken career in IT, I was once a fresh 
graduate. Well at least now I can do upon those whom did not do anything 
against me .... MUHAHAAHA!

> Just out of curiosity Spyda, where are you focusing your job hunt (or is 
> it everywhere)? I've focused on the Wellington Region (being that I'm 
> currently in Lower Hutt).

To be specific, Australia :p
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

Marsh_lion wrote:
> Tom Schluter wrote:
>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>> Steven Ung wrote:
>>>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message
>>>>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), 
>>>>> I won't have an issue.
>>>>
>>>> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that 
>>>> is). You won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss 
>>>> anything even if you come back after 10 years.
>>>>
>>> Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access 
>>> as it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather my 
>>> 56k modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed it 
>>> pumps out).
>>
>> The few. The poor.  Those of us still on dial-up. <sigh>
>>
> I must agree, having been there, done that and wanting to throw away the 
> tee-shirt.
> 
> --]
> Marsh Lion
> Programmer extraordinare
> 

Worse yet are those so-called "friends" who, gloating and lording over 
us with their bandwidth supremacy deluge us poor "dialies" with assorted 
and sundry multimedia files.

Bah!

"Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
news:FpOdnUamh6buoOPZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
> Marsh_lion wrote:
>> Tom Schluter wrote:
>>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>>> Steven Ung wrote:
>>>>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message
>>>>>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a mistake!), I 
>>>>>> won't have an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that 
>>>>> is). You won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss 
>>>>> anything even if you come back after 10 years.
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access as 
>>>> it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather my 56k 
>>>> modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed it pumps 
>>>> out).
>>>
>>> The few. The poor.  Those of us still on dial-up. <sigh>
>>>
>> I must agree, having been there, done that and wanting to throw away the 
>> tee-shirt.
>>
>> --]
>> Marsh Lion
>> Programmer extraordinare
>>
>
> Worse yet are those so-called "friends" who, gloating and lording over us 
> with their bandwidth supremacy deluge us poor "dialies" with assorted and 
> sundry multimedia files.
>
> Bah!

We just wanna share!

--
LTP

:) 

Tom Schluter wrote:
> Marsh_lion wrote:
>> Tom Schluter wrote:
>>> Marsh_lion wrote:
>>>> Steven Ung wrote:
>>>>> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message
>>>>>> If I choose not to get broadband (I think that will be a 
>>>>>> mistake!), I won't have an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or don't get one at all (not until you've got a stable income that 
>>>>> is). You won't die without internet and trust me, you won't miss 
>>>>> anything even if you come back after 10 years.
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it won't work quite like that. I need Internet access 
>>>> as it is a great aid for my job hunt. The real question is weather 
>>>> my 56k modem is still up to the job (and if I can handle the speed 
>>>> it pumps out).
>>>
>>> The few. The poor.  Those of us still on dial-up. <sigh>
>>>
>> I must agree, having been there, done that and wanting to throw away 
>> the tee-shirt.
>>
>> --]
>> Marsh Lion
>> Programmer extraordinare
>>
> 
> Worse yet are those so-called "friends" who, gloating and lording over 
> us with their bandwidth supremacy deluge us poor "dialies" with assorted 
> and sundry multimedia files.
> 
> Bah!
  I must agree, I can't could how many e-mails I had that were over 1 
meg, while on dial-up (5 mins + to download). I don't believe I've ever 
sent large e-mails without first warning the recipients.

--
Marsh Lion
Pondering the move back to dial-up

Steven Ung wrote:
>> Oh so true. I finished my degree about 3 years ago (when there were a few 
>> too many of us). Nowadays (certainly from my experience (in Wellington, NZ 
>> at least)) there is a shortage, but they don't want to train anyone new 
>> (the old adage of to get experience, you must first have experience).
> 
> That is exactly what I feel the candidates must have (experience) even 
> though when I start up on this forsaken career in IT, I was once a fresh 
> graduate. Well at least now I can do upon those whom did not do anything 
> against me .... MUHAHAAHA!
> 
Remind me to kill you if I ever travel to Malaysia :-) (which could well 
be never).

>> Just out of curiosity Spyda, where are you focusing your job hunt (or is 
>> it everywhere)? I've focused on the Wellington Region (being that I'm 
>> currently in Lower Hutt).
> 
> To be specific, Australia :p

He's a poor sod if he moved over there (I'm sure he used to be a kiwi 
living in Napier).
--
Marsh Lion
pondering the move back to dial-up

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:447e9d49$1@clear.net.nz...
>> Worse yet are those so-called "friends" who, gloating and lording over us 
>> with their bandwidth supremacy deluge us poor "dialies" with assorted and 
>> sundry multimedia files.
>>
>> Bah!
>  I must agree, I can't could how many e-mails I had that were over 1 meg, 
> while on dial-up (5 mins + to download). I don't believe I've ever sent 
> large e-mails without first warning the recipients.

In all fairness many people don't know the size of an email, or even have a 
general idea that multimedia is bigger than text.   Maybe if they thought 
about it, but they aren't pondering the world and the universe they are just 
forwarding something interesting/unique in their opinion.

--
LTP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:447e9d49$1@clear.net.nz...
>>> Worse yet are those so-called "friends" who, gloating and lording over us 
>>> with their bandwidth supremacy deluge us poor "dialies" with assorted and 
>>> sundry multimedia files.
>>>
>>> Bah!
>>  I must agree, I can't could how many e-mails I had that were over 1 meg, 
>> while on dial-up (5 mins + to download). I don't believe I've ever sent 
>> large e-mails without first warning the recipients.
> 
> In all fairness many people don't know the size of an email, or even have a 
> general idea that multimedia is bigger than text.   Maybe if they thought 
> about it, but they aren't pondering the world and the universe they are just 
> forwarding something interesting/unique in their opinion.

I make sure they know, after they have sent it to me

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
news:447fb4b2@clear.net.nz...
>>>> Bah!
>>>  I must agree, I can't could how many e-mails I had that were over 1 
>>> meg, while on dial-up (5 mins + to download). I don't believe I've ever 
>>> sent large e-mails without first warning the recipients.
>>
>> In all fairness many people don't know the size of an email, or even have 
>> a general idea that multimedia is bigger than text.   Maybe if they 
>> thought about it, but they aren't pondering the world and the universe 
>> they are just forwarding something interesting/unique in their opinion.
>
> I make sure they know, after they have sent it to me

Punish people for sharing with you?

LOL

--
LTP

:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:447fb4b2@clear.net.nz...
>>>>> Bah!
>>>>  I must agree, I can't could how many e-mails I had that were over 1 
>>>> meg, while on dial-up (5 mins + to download). I don't believe I've ever 
>>>> sent large e-mails without first warning the recipients.
>>> In all fairness many people don't know the size of an email, or even have 
>>> a general idea that multimedia is bigger than text.   Maybe if they 
>>> thought about it, but they aren't pondering the world and the universe 
>>> they are just forwarding something interesting/unique in their opinion.
>> I make sure they know, after they have sent it to me
> 
> Punish people for sharing with you?
> 
> LOL

One was a Powerpoint slide that was work related (5 meg - put it in PDF 
and it was 1 meg), others was a bunch of photo's that were sent at high 
resolution.
--
Marsh Lion
shall or shan't I