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"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> writes:

> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
> with
>
> 1. CPU Brand
> 2. CPU Speed
> 3. Total Harddisk space
> 4. RAM
> 5. Display Card Type
> 6. Display Card RAM
> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)

Welcome to "The Lazy Burglar's Way to Case a Prospective Victim".

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> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> writes:
>
>> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts
>> with
>>
>> 1. CPU Brand
>> 2. CPU Speed
>> 3. Total Harddisk space
>> 4. RAM
>> 5. Display Card Type
>> 6. Display Card RAM
>> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
>
> Welcome to "The Lazy Burglar's Way to Case a Prospective Victim".

Not for my house when I post my stats

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:) 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
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>I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
>with
>
> 1. CPU Brand
> 2. CPU Speed
> 3. Total Harddisk space
> 4. RAM
> 5. Display Card Type
> 6. Display Card RAM
> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
>
> -- 
> Steven Ung
> The Lazy Salmon Boy Asian

1. AMD
2. XP 2500 (Barton) Underclocked to speed of a 1700 because my mobo doesn't 
support 166 Mhz FSB - wire trick might work if were daring enough to pop the 
giant heatsink thing off, but heat is already a huge concern anyway so I 
leave it. . . grrr
3. 120 GB
4. 512 MB
5. E-VGA NVidia Geforce 5500
6. 128 MB ?
7. 600$

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:) 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
> news:o5b7e3x3gs.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
>>with
>>
>> 1. CPU Brand
>> 2. CPU Speed
>> 3. Total Harddisk space
>> 4. RAM
>> 5. Display Card Type
>> 6. Display Card RAM
>> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
>>
>> -- 
>> Steven Ung
>> The Lazy Salmon Boy Asian
>
> 1. AMD
> 2. XP 2500 (Barton) Underclocked to speed of a 1700 because my mobo 
> doesn't support 166 Mhz FSB - wire trick might work if were daring enough 
> to pop the giant heatsink thing off, but heat is already a huge concern 
> anyway so I leave it. . . grrr
> 3. 120 GB
> 4. 512 MB
> 5. E-VGA NVidia Geforce 5500
> 6. 128 MB ?
> 7. 600$


Is your pricing excluding the monitor?

1. Intel :p
2. 2.66Mhz (no overclock as I prefer stability over speed)
3. 160GB
4. 1.5Gig
5. Gigabyte ATI Radeon
6. 128MB

Mine is without monitor and costs approx US 600 also (what a rip off)
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:08:18 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>Is your pricing excluding the monitor?
>
>1. Intel :p
>2. 2.66Mhz (no overclock as I prefer stability over speed)
What model?
>3. 160GB
>4. 1.5Gig
>5. Gigabyte ATI Radeon
What model?
>6. 128MB

>Mine is without monitor and costs approx US 600 also (what a rip off)

Hard to use it w/o a monitor, eh?

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:10:53 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:

>I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
>with
>
>1. CPU Brand
>2. CPU Speed
>3. Total Harddisk space
>4. RAM
>5. Display Card Type
>6. Display Card RAM
>7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)

I have 2.
Laptop:
1. AMD Turion 64
2. ML-30 (1.6 GHz)
3. 60 GB
4. 768 MB
5. Integrated :(
6. Shared :(
7. $700

Desktop:
1. AMD Athlon XP (Barton)
2. 2600+ OC'd to 180 x2 FSB, 2800+ equiv. (1.9 GHz > 2.1 GHz)
3. 460 GB
5. ATI 9600 All-In-Wonder (Pro)
6. 128 MB
7. ~$950 +$200 17" LCD Monitor

-- 
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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:41:58 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>1. AMD
>2. XP 2500 (Barton) Underclocked to speed of a 1700 because my mobo doesn't 
>support 166 Mhz FSB - wire trick might work if were daring enough to pop the 
>giant heatsink thing off, but heat is already a huge concern anyway so I 
>leave it. . . grrr

Must be a crappy anceint mobo. I would say you could get one that
supports 200 mhz fsb for like $50, but it'd really suit you better
just to upgrade to a new mobo with athlon 64.

-- 
"No I'm saying that I'm a cow dung." - Stephen "Suupernuubie" Ung
"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:41:58 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>1. AMD
>>2. XP 2500 (Barton) Underclocked to speed of a 1700 because my mobo 
>>doesn't
>>support 166 Mhz FSB - wire trick might work if were daring enough to pop 
>>the
>>giant heatsink thing off, but heat is already a huge concern anyway so I
>>leave it. . . grrr
>
> Must be a crappy anceint mobo. I would say you could get one that
> supports 200 mhz fsb for like $50, but it'd really suit you better
> just to upgrade to a new mobo with athlon 64.


Yes, but if you change mobo, you would normally have to change almost 
everything, except for hard disk, floppy (who on earth still use this!?), 
cdr/w

Processor, RAM and display - those are the two things that are costly

It's like replacing the mini cooper with a Ferrari engine ?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:08:18 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>Is your pricing excluding the monitor?
>>
>>1. Intel :p
>>2. 2.66Mhz (no overclock as I prefer stability over speed)
> What model?
Err... Intel 2.66? :p

>>3. 160GB
>>4. 1.5Gig
>>5. Gigabyte ATI Radeon
> What model?

Radeon 9250 / GV-R925128DE (with TV out)

>>6. 128MB
>
>>Mine is without monitor and costs approx US 600 also (what a rip off)
>
> Hard to use it w/o a monitor, eh?

Actually I've recently upgraded my PC (from Athlon XP 1700 - not overclock 
but keeps crashing due to overheat) and I'm re-using my 17" Flat screen CRT.

LCD monitor looks cooler though.
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:21:40 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>Yes, but if you change mobo, you would normally have to change almost 
>everything, except for hard disk, floppy (who on earth still use this!?), 
>cdr/w
>
>Processor, RAM and display - those are the two things that are costly
>
>It's like replacing the mini cooper with a Ferrari engine ?

Err, the mini cooper is pretty cool, and ferrari engines are
overrated. A Honda 2.5L turbocharged on a small enough frame can do
0-60 in 1.3 seconds. Pretty f'ing cool, but I digress...

A new motherboard & processor would work just fine with the current
video card & ram, and a pretty damn decent athlon /w mobo combo can be
gotten for $200-$300. Careful to either get an agp mobo, or a
pci-express with a new video card. I'm not sure if combo
agp/pci-express motherboards exist(it's quite possible) but I've not
seen them in the slew of high-end mobo reviews I've read.

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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:26:31 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>Err... Intel 2.66? :p

Pentium 4? Pentium 4 EE? Pentium D? Three digit model number? 2.66
tells me nothing!

>Radeon 9250 / GV-R925128DE (with TV out)

Ah... old school...

>Actually I've recently upgraded my PC (from Athlon XP 1700 - not overclock 
>but keeps crashing due to overheat) and I'm re-using my 17" Flat screen CRT.

So... just get a $20 hsf cooler and the athlon is salvaged? Those
older (thoroughbred) athlons ran like hot mothers with stock coolers.
Mine regularly ran above 70 C, and occasionally dipped close to 80 in
the summer. That's when I had to turn the thing off and do something
else for half an hour. My new Barton, however, runs at 2.1 GHz
overclocked below 60 almost all the time. At idle, it's around 55, and
gets up to about 62 during max cpu util. Stock cooler, nothing fancy.

>LCD monitor looks cooler though.

Sort of... I really liked my CRT 17", looked absolutely brilliant, but
I thought it would be nice to have more room for stuff in my fairly
cramped dorm room, and my dad had an extra LCD monitor either to go to
me or my brother, so I scooped it up. I'm fairly pleased with it,
though I still don't think the picture is quite as good as my CRT Dell
trinitron.

-- 
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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:26:31 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>Err... Intel 2.66? :p
>
> Pentium 4? Pentium 4 EE? Pentium D? Three digit model number? 2.66
> tells me nothing!

Bah... details details..
Pentium IV (I guess)

>>Radeon 9250 / GV-R925128DE (with TV out)
>
> Ah... old school...

It works okay and I guess on average everyone is using a 128MB for their 
display.

>>Actually I've recently upgraded my PC (from Athlon XP 1700 - not overclock
>>but keeps crashing due to overheat) and I'm re-using my 17" Flat screen 
>>CRT.
>
> So... just get a $20 hsf cooler and the athlon is salvaged? Those
> older (thoroughbred) athlons ran like hot mothers with stock coolers.
> Mine regularly ran above 70 C, and occasionally dipped close to 80 in
> the summer. That's when I had to turn the thing off and do something
> else for half an hour. My new Barton, however, runs at 2.1 GHz
> overclocked below 60 almost all the time. At idle, it's around 55, and
> gets up to about 62 during max cpu util. Stock cooler, nothing fancy.

When your company gives you your annual bonus your hand tends to be a little 
bit itchy. Secondly the old fart has served me well and lately it keeps 
hanging - not to mention it cannot run newer and cooler 3D games like Prince 
of Persia, Doom III etc

>>LCD monitor looks cooler though.
>
> Sort of... I really liked my CRT 17", looked absolutely brilliant, but
> I thought it would be nice to have more room for stuff in my fairly
> cramped dorm room, and my dad had an extra LCD monitor either to go to
> me or my brother, so I scooped it up. I'm fairly pleased with it,
> though I still don't think the picture is quite as good as my CRT Dell
> trinitron.

Your dad wouldn't happen to have another spare 21" LCD monitor, does he? :p
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

> 1. AMD Athlon 64
> 2. 2200 MHz (3500+)
> 3. 189 GB
> 4. 512 Mb (going to switch one of the 256 Mb blocks with a 1024 Mb today :D)
> 5. Point Of View NVidia Geforce 6600 NT
> 6. 128 Mb DDR
> 7. 780 $ (It's two months old)

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:41:58 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>1. AMD
>>2. XP 2500 (Barton) Underclocked to speed of a 1700 because my mobo 
>>doesn't
>>support 166 Mhz FSB - wire trick might work if were daring enough to pop 
>>the
>>giant heatsink thing off, but heat is already a huge concern anyway so I
>>leave it. . . grrr
>
> Must be a crappy anceint mobo. I would say you could get one that
> supports 200 mhz fsb for like $50, but it'd really suit you better
> just to upgrade to a new mobo with athlon 64.

It's an XPC system

--
LTP

:) 

Steven Ung wrote:
> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
> with
> 
> 1. CPU Brand
Intel P4 w/ Hyperthreading
> 2. CPU Speed
3.0 Ghz (Northwood)
> 3. Total Harddisk space
120 Gb (IDE)
> 4. RAM
1Gb (DDR400?, dual channel (2x 512Mb)
> 5. Display Card Type
NVIDIA GeForce fx5200 (winfast)
> 6. Display Card RAM
256Mb
> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
Not sure but probably close to $1000 (similar new computers sell for 
around $1500 NZD)

I'm rather worried as I brought this about 2 years ago, and still see 
that it (in some cases, more than) competes to the other computers I see 
listed. My next machine will have the Athlon X64 dual core and be using 
a SATA Hard drive (which I may chuck in this computer first). The 
weakest link in this machine is the Video card though.

--
Marsh Lion
Is that all you've got?

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:45:05 -0800, Zealot The Crazy Lui
<ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
>Desktop:
>1. AMD Athlon XP (Barton)
>2. 2600+ OC'd to 180 x2 FSB, 2800+ equiv. (1.9 GHz > 2.1 GHz)
>3. 460 GB
4. 1.5 GB
>5. ATI 9600 All-In-Wonder (Pro)
>6. 128 MB
>7. ~$950 +$200 17" LCD Monitor

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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:37:58 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>It's an XPC system

What's... that?

-- 
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"Eat a bag of hell." - Cyric The Mad
"I'm all for the girl on girl action, but it could put a strain on the marriage" - LTP

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:37:58 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>It's an XPC system
>
> What's... that?

http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-sn41g2-openLG.jpg

See picture   (For attribution original article is at 
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=sn41g2&cookie%5Ftest=1 )

--
LTP

:) 

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:53:48 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-sn41g2-openLG.jpg
>
>See picture   (For attribution original article is at 
>http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=sn41g2&cookie%5Ftest=1 )

Ah.

Why?

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:53:48 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-sn41g2-openLG.jpg
>>
>>See picture   (For attribution original article is at
>>http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=sn41g2&cookie%5Ftest=1 )
>
> Ah.
>
> Why?

This wasn't supposed to be my computer.

I built it for my niece - for to help her in school.  Stipulation was that 
she got to keep it as long as she didn't stay it school.

It came back to me.

I sold my computer to my aunt to pay some bills - thinking I would rebuild 
it soon.   But I never did.

This computer is fine.  I don't play computer games anyway so I don't need 
much.

--
LTP

:) 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:pss7121qn38qicqgdbbd9b2ofua0jf5gjg@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:53:48 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
>> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>>http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-sn41g2-openLG.jpg
>>>
>>>See picture   (For attribution original article is at
>>>http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=sn41g2&cookie%5Ftest=1 )
>>
>> Ah.
>>
>> Why?
>
> This wasn't supposed to be my computer.
>
> I built it for my niece - for to help her in school.  Stipulation was that 
> she got to keep it as long as she didn't stay it school.

Err.. say what? You don't want her to go to school?

> It came back to me.
>
> I sold my computer to my aunt to pay some bills - thinking I would rebuild 
> it soon.   But I never did.

Your aunt should have help you to pay the bills instead :p

> This computer is fine.  I don't play computer games anyway so I don't need 
> much.

*gulp* You mean Peter Pan finally realizes that he is no boy anymore?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
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> Steven Ung wrote:
>> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
>> with
>>
>> 1. CPU Brand
> Intel P4 w/ Hyperthreading
>> 2. CPU Speed
> 3.0 Ghz (Northwood)
>> 3. Total Harddisk space
> 120 Gb (IDE)
>> 4. RAM
> 1Gb (DDR400?, dual channel (2x 512Mb)
>> 5. Display Card Type
> NVIDIA GeForce fx5200 (winfast)
>> 6. Display Card RAM
> 256Mb
>> 7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
> Not sure but probably close to $1000 (similar new computers sell for 
> around $1500 NZD)
>
> I'm rather worried as I brought this about 2 years ago, and still see that 
> it (in some cases, more than) competes to the other computers I see 
> listed. My next machine will have the Athlon X64 dual core and be using a 
> SATA Hard drive (which I may chuck in this computer first).

Yes but do you really need those features (eg. SATA)

>The weakest link in this machine is the Video card though.

I think you have one of the best video card amongst us
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

Steven Ung wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:4411fccd$1@clear.net.nz...
>>I'm rather worried as I brought this about 2 years ago, and still see that 
>>it (in some cases, more than) competes to the other computers I see 
>>listed. My next machine will have the Athlon X64 dual core and be using a 
>>SATA Hard drive (which I may chuck in this computer first).
> 
> Yes but do you really need those features (eg. SATA)
> 
Not currently. This machine is more than capable of doing everything 
that I need it to. In future though, I'm looking at writing some more 
CPU and memory intensive programs (multi user, deformable landscape 
anyone?). Being that RAM is limited to 2GB on a 32 bit machine, I expect 
to need a lot more space, and need a decent speed HD for swap (in saying 
that, my Pagefile is close to 850mb now - my machine could use a little 
tuning).
> 
>>The weakest link in this machine is the Video card though.
> 
> I think you have one of the best video card amongst us

EEK. It was mid to low end when I built this machine (~$250 NZD, ~$150 
USD). Looking back over the others I see Luc has a Geforce 5500 (I'd say 
it comparable) and Zealot has and ATI 9600 (isn't that better?).

--
Marsh Lion
:-)

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:07:33 +1300, Marsh_lion
<marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:
>Not currently. This machine is more than capable of doing everything 
>that I need it to. In future though, I'm looking at writing some more 
>CPU and memory intensive programs (multi user, deformable landscape 
>anyone?). Being that RAM is limited to 2GB on a 32 bit machine, I expect 
>to need a lot more space, and need a decent speed HD for swap (in saying 
>that, my Pagefile is close to 850mb now - my machine could use a little 
>tuning).

Heh... I set up my swap file to span accross all 3 of my internal
drives and to take up 6-10GB. Add in 1.5GB of RAM OC'd to 360 MHz DDR
(from 333) and it keeps things pretty speedy. And the limit for 32-bit
is 4GB; 2GB is likely dependent on your motherboard.

>EEK. It was mid to low end when I built this machine (~$250 NZD, ~$150 
>USD). Looking back over the others I see Luc has a Geforce 5500 (I'd say 
>it comparable) and Zealot has and ATI 9600 (isn't that better?).

I'd say 9600 > 5500 > 5200...
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Zealot The Crazy Lui wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:07:33 +1300, Marsh_lion
> <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:
> 
>>Not currently. This machine is more than capable of doing everything 
>>that I need it to. In future though, I'm looking at writing some more 
>>CPU and memory intensive programs (multi user, deformable landscape 
>>anyone?). Being that RAM is limited to 2GB on a 32 bit machine, I expect 
>>to need a lot more space, and need a decent speed HD for swap (in saying 
>>that, my Pagefile is close to 850mb now - my machine could use a little 
>>tuning).
> 
> 
> Heh... I set up my swap file to span accross all 3 of my internal
> drives and to take up 6-10GB. Add in 1.5GB of RAM OC'd to 360 MHz DDR
> (from 333) and it keeps things pretty speedy. And the limit for 32-bit
> is 4GB; 2GB is likely dependent on your motherboard.
> 
Maybe it's common accross a number of motherboards. I don't recall 
seeing the 4Gb limit anywhere, but it does make sense (2^32 = 4 Gb).
> 
>>EEK. It was mid to low end when I built this machine (~$250 NZD, ~$150 
>>USD). Looking back over the others I see Luc has a Geforce 5500 (I'd say 
>>it comparable) and Zealot has and ATI 9600 (isn't that better?).
> 
> 
> I'd say 9600 > 5500 > 5200...

That's what I thought, but couldn't confirm, due to my lack of graphics 
card knowledge.

--
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:-)

"Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
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> Zealot The Crazy Lui wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:07:33 +1300, Marsh_lion
>> <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>Not currently. This machine is more than capable of doing everything that 
>>>I need it to. In future though, I'm looking at writing some more CPU and 
>>>memory intensive programs (multi user, deformable landscape anyone?). 
>>>Being that RAM is limited to 2GB on a 32 bit machine, I expect to need a 
>>>lot more space, and need a decent speed HD for swap (in saying that, my 
>>>Pagefile is close to 850mb now - my machine could use a little tuning).
>>
>>
>> Heh... I set up my swap file to span accross all 3 of my internal
>> drives and to take up 6-10GB. Add in 1.5GB of RAM OC'd to 360 MHz DDR
>> (from 333) and it keeps things pretty speedy. And the limit for 32-bit
>> is 4GB; 2GB is likely dependent on your motherboard.
>>
> Maybe it's common accross a number of motherboards. I don't recall seeing 
> the 4Gb limit anywhere, but it does make sense (2^32 = 4 Gb).
>>
>>>EEK. It was mid to low end when I built this machine (~$250 NZD, ~$150 
>>>USD). Looking back over the others I see Luc has a Geforce 5500 (I'd say 
>>>it comparable) and Zealot has and ATI 9600 (isn't that better?).
>>
>>
>> I'd say 9600 > 5500 > 5200...
>
> That's what I thought, but couldn't confirm, due to my lack of graphics 
> card knowledge.

All of them are midrange cards except the 5200 which is even slower than an 
MX 440 hence a piece of hud

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:) 

Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Marsh_lion" <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote in message 
> news:4415f05c$1@clear.net.nz...
> 
>>Zealot The Crazy Lui wrote:

>>>I'd say 9600 > 5500 > 5200...
>>
>>That's what I thought, but couldn't confirm, due to my lack of graphics 
>>card knowledge.
> 
> 
> All of them are midrange cards except the 5200 which is even slower than an 
> MX 440 hence a piece of hud

Thank God I've got a good CPU then. My computer runs Battlefield 2 quite 
nicely. I did try to run a F.E.A.R. demo, and well, even when I dialed 
everything down as low as possible, it still stuttered at an unplayable 
rate.
--
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Is a new Graphics card on the horizon?

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:42:52 +1300, Marsh_lion
<marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:
>Thank God I've got a good CPU then. My computer runs Battlefield 2 quite 
>nicely. I did try to run a F.E.A.R. demo, and well, even when I dialed 
>everything down as low as possible, it still stuttered at an unplayable 
>rate.

BF2 is pretty CPU intensive... detail dialed down it doesn't have very
high video card reqs. FEAR ran at barely playable (~20fps most of the
time) at medium-ish detail settiings, and ran smoothly at lower ones.
And from what I've heard, FEAR is very demanding on your vid card,
although the amount of detail changes drastically depending on whether
you use a dx 7, 8, or 9 enabled card especially for dynamic lighting
and 'haze' effects. (the GF 4x00 MX series was 7, GF 4x00 FX series
was 8, 5x00 was mostly 8, higher end 6x00 & 7x00 are 9. For ATI below
9500 is 7, 9500 & above is 8, x series is 9)
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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:42:52 +1300, Marsh_lion
> <marsh...@SPAMparadise.net.nz> wrote:
>>Thank God I've got a good CPU then. My computer runs Battlefield 2 quite
>>nicely. I did try to run a F.E.A.R. demo, and well, even when I dialed
>>everything down as low as possible, it still stuttered at an unplayable
>>rate.
>
> BF2 is pretty CPU intensive... detail dialed down it doesn't have very
> high video card reqs. FEAR ran at barely playable (~20fps most of the
> time) at medium-ish detail settiings, and ran smoothly at lower ones.
> And from what I've heard, FEAR is very demanding on your vid card,
> although the amount of detail changes drastically depending on whether
> you use a dx 7, 8, or 9 enabled card especially for dynamic lighting
> and 'haze' effects. (the GF 4x00 MX series was 7, GF 4x00 FX series
> was 8, 5x00 was mostly 8, higher end 6x00 & 7x00 are 9. For ATI below
> 9500 is 7, 9500 & above is 8, x series is 9)

Is the game FEAR good? With such demanding graphics it better be!

Actually software is more expensive than hardware.

1. Mickeysoft Windows XPee Pro costs approx US 135
2. Mickeysoft Office XPee Pro costs approx. US 475
3. Mickeysoft Visio costs approx. US 475
4. Adobe Photoshop CS 2 ????
etc??

That amount may not be much to a westerner but convert that to the insane 
Malaysian banana leaf currency RM 1.00 and you get a truck load of money 
(exaggerated).
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:41:14 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>Is the game FEAR good? With such demanding graphics it better be!

FEAR has awesome graphics with a sufficiently loaded PC, they decline
sharply as your PC specs do, however. As for gameplay, it's kinda
repetetive...

>Actually software is more expensive than hardware.
>
>1. Mickeysoft Windows XPee Pro costs approx US 135

You can get it (especially OEM) for quite a bit less than that...

>2. Mickeysoft Office XPee Pro costs approx. US 475

?!
Student/Teacher edition is like $130 I think? You can get it MUCH less
than that.

>3. Mickeysoft Visio costs approx. US 475

Why would you want that? I could get it free through my CS club, but I
don't know what it does and I don't have any use for it.

>4. Adobe Photoshop CS 2 ????
>etc??

Mucho expensive. why do you need photoshop again?

>That amount may not be much to a westerner but convert that to the insane 
>Malaysian banana leaf currency RM 1.00 and you get a truck load of money 
>(exaggerated).

Don't they have lots of cheap cheap pirated softwarez in those
backwards countries over in asia?
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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:sitc121p54gtvmrsr72nimtdkoulfd6eer@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:41:14 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>Is the game FEAR good? With such demanding graphics it better be!
>
> FEAR has awesome graphics with a sufficiently loaded PC, they decline
> sharply as your PC specs do, however. As for gameplay, it's kinda
> repetetive...

I might venture into this if time permits.

>>Actually software is more expensive than hardware.
>>
>>1. Mickeysoft Windows XPee Pro costs approx US 135
>
> You can get it (especially OEM) for quite a bit less than that...

The cost that you saved from the open license is not really that signficant. 
You only need to buy one full pack with the cd installation+manual+box 
casing etc and the rest is just a piece of e-paper which you can keep track 
off Mickeysoft site.

>>2. Mickeysoft Office XPee Pro costs approx. US 475
>
> ?!
> Student/Teacher edition is like $130 I think? You can get it MUCH less
> than that.

Except that we as corporations are not able to buy the so called package

>>3. Mickeysoft Visio costs approx. US 475
>
> Why would you want that? I could get it free through my CS club, but I
> don't know what it does and I don't have any use for it.

If you do lots of network/flowcharts etc Visio is definitely faster but I 
have to admit that you can get it done using the Mickeysoft Office XPee. In 
Visio if you need to move the flowchart of linked objects around just move 
the object and the links will be automatically adjusted.

>>4. Adobe Photoshop CS 2 ????
>>etc??
>
> Mucho expensive. why do you need photoshop again?

Graphic works, of course

>>That amount may not be much to a westerner but convert that to the insane
>>Malaysian banana leaf currency RM 1.00 and you get a truck load of money
>>(exaggerated).
>
> Don't they have lots of cheap cheap pirated softwarez in those
> backwards countries over in asia?

Yes there are everywhere but there are also abundant of copyright laws that 
we as corporates need to abide, or we'll get our ass sued by BSA.

For a 80 users Novell client+server license, we need to spend UNITED STATES 
DOLLAR SIX THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX (actual amount based on 
latest quote).
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:48:25 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>I might venture into this if time permits.

Feel free, so long as your specs are up to it. (I'd recommend a better
video card than the 9250 though...)

>The cost that you saved from the open license is not really that signficant. 
>You only need to buy one full pack with the cd installation+manual+box 
>casing etc and the rest is just a piece of e-paper which you can keep track 
>off Mickeysoft site.

I've seen it for about $50 less than the equivalent full boxed copy...
that's pretty significant, in my book. Only bummer with the OEM
license is that it's forever linked to a single motherboard.

>Except that we as corporations are not able to buy the so called package

Corporations?? Oh come on, Stephen, I thought you meant software that
you yourself had to pay for. Who cares about what corporations have to
pay for software? :)

>If you do lots of network/flowcharts etc Visio is definitely faster but I 
>have to admit that you can get it done using the Mickeysoft Office XPee. In 
>Visio if you need to move the flowchart of linked objects around just move 
>the object and the links will be automatically adjusted.

Hmm... doesn't sound like something I need.

>Graphic works, of course

You do graphic-ey stuff? Are you like a jack of all whatsits?

>Yes there are everywhere but there are also abundant of copyright laws that 
>we as corporates need to abide, or we'll get our ass sued by BSA.
>
>For a 80 users Novell client+server license, we need to spend UNITED STATES 
>DOLLAR SIX THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX (actual amount based on 
>latest quote).

Yeah, well, that's life.
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"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
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> 1. Mickeysoft Windows XPee Pro costs approx US 135

Substitute linux - cost zero

> 2. Mickeysoft Office XPee Pro costs approx. US 475

Substitute Open Office - cost Zero

> 3. Mickeysoft Visio costs approx. US 475

WTF?  Why do you want that?

> 4. Adobe Photoshop CS 2 ????

The Gimp or something - free?

Free software was made for poor people like you and me.

And yes - this is still a lot to "average" people.  To the upper middle 
class it is an annoying expense and nothing is expensive to the rich ;)

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:) 

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:50:44 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
<sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>The Gimp or something - free?
>
>Free software was made for poor people like you and me.
>
>And yes - this is still a lot to "average" people.  To the upper middle 
>class it is an annoying expense and nothing is expensive to the rich ;)

w00t for GNU. :)
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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:48:25 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>I might venture into this if time permits.
>
> Feel free, so long as your specs are up to it. (I'd recommend a better
> video card than the 9250 though...)
>
>>The cost that you saved from the open license is not really that 
>>signficant.
>>You only need to buy one full pack with the cd installation+manual+box
>>casing etc and the rest is just a piece of e-paper which you can keep 
>>track
>>off Mickeysoft site.
>
> I've seen it for about $50 less than the equivalent full boxed copy...
> that's pretty significant, in my book. Only bummer with the OEM
> license is that it's forever linked to a single motherboard.

www.dell.com.my and click on customize on any notebook

Microsoft(R) Office Small Business Edition 2003 (OEM Version) [+RM 839.00] = 
US 220.79
Microsoft(R) Office Professional Edition 2003 (OEM Version) [+RM 1126.00] = 
US 296.32

If we happen to change motherboard, we will call Mickeysoft and have it 
re-activated. As long as we have one license to support the PC, it still 
counts as a license. Yes, we are aware of how the copyright law works but 
screw Mickeysoft. :-p

Secondly, it is not everyday that we have the motherboard changed.

>>Except that we as corporations are not able to buy the so called package
>
> Corporations?? Oh come on, Stephen, I thought you meant software that
> you yourself had to pay for. Who cares about what corporations have to
> pay for software? :)

Whoa... hold your horses!? You mean we have to pay for home user license?! 
Oh yeah, how silly of me! We *must* pay for home user license! ;-)

>>If you do lots of network/flowcharts etc Visio is definitely faster but I
>>have to admit that you can get it done using the Mickeysoft Office XPee. 
>>In
>>Visio if you need to move the flowchart of linked objects around just move
>>the object and the links will be automatically adjusted.
>
> Hmm... doesn't sound like something I need.
>
>>Graphic works, of course
>
> You do graphic-ey stuff? Are you like a jack of all whatsits?

Actually it is quite easy to learn. After all, you kinda get bored ordering 
people around and you pretty much have some free time to yourself. whenever 
I am in trouble I consult my friend (who is a graphic designer) but most of 
the time is through self learning from the vast resources and tutorials, off 
the net. Most of the tutorials have a very detailed step by step, which is 
very easy to learn.

Most of the time I uses Adobe CS to create graphics for the director 
presentation materials

>>Yes there are everywhere but there are also abundant of copyright laws 
>>that
>>we as corporates need to abide, or we'll get our ass sued by BSA.
>>
>>For a 80 users Novell client+server license, we need to spend UNITED 
>>STATES
>>DOLLAR SIX THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX (actual amount based on
>>latest quote).
>
> Yeah, well, that's life.

They should come up with a third world country cost for that. We still live 
on trees you know.
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:50:44 -0700, "Luc The Perverse"
> <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>The Gimp or something - free?
>>
>>Free software was made for poor people like you and me.
>>
>>And yes - this is still a lot to "average" people.  To the upper middle
>>class it is an annoying expense and nothing is expensive to the rich ;)
>
> w00t for GNU. :)


Of course you can't be bothered with it :P
-- 
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The Ignorant Asian 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
news:eejje3xh41.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
> news:a09ie3xshi.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> 1. Mickeysoft Windows XPee Pro costs approx US 135
>
> Substitute linux - cost zero

Almost 90% the university graduates here have never even heard of Linux, 
moreever use Open office.

>> 2. Mickeysoft Office XPee Pro costs approx. US 475
>
> Substitute Open Office - cost Zero
>
>> 3. Mickeysoft Visio costs approx. US 475
>
> WTF?  Why do you want that?

See earlier post

>> 4. Adobe Photoshop CS 2 ????
>
> The Gimp or something - free?
>
> Free software was made for poor people like you and me.

Oh, don't be such a hypocrite. IIRC you're also using Mickeysoft instead of 
Linux.

> And yes - this is still a lot to "average" people.  To the upper middle 
> class it is an annoying expense and nothing is expensive to the rich ;)

Sad but how very true.
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote
>I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. Please posts 
>with
>
>1. CPU Brand
Pee Fore
>2. CPU Speed
2.4
>3. Total Harddisk space
Lots (120+200)
>4. RAM
768
>5. Display Card Type
nVdia 6600 GT
>6. Display Card RAM
Don't remember
>7. Estimated Market Price (in USD)
Lots
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> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote
> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have. 

Blitzed.  Our power "blipped" a couple of times today.  PC did not 
survive the second occurrence.

Fortunately, my homeowner's policy covers "replacement cost" (less 
deductible, of course).  Given the age of the PC (Win98SE), anything I 
replace it with will be incredibly fast by comparison.

(I don't know whether to blame the power company or to thank them.)

Fortunately, back up laptop had battery power to handle the situation.

TS

"Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
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>
>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote
>> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have.
>
> Blitzed.  Our power "blipped" a couple of times today.  PC did not survive 
> the second occurrence.
>
> Fortunately, my homeowner's policy covers "replacement cost" (less 
> deductible, of course).  Given the age of the PC (Win98SE), anything I 
> replace it with will be incredibly fast by comparison.
>
> (I don't know whether to blame the power company or to thank them.)
>
> Fortunately, back up laptop had battery power to handle the situation.

You need an ups mister.

And your insurance company is stupid if minus the deductible of current 
value of your computer is enough to buy a newer better computer.

--
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:) 

"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
> news:-Omdnce13dRd1LbZ4p2dnA@bright.net...
>>
>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote
>>> I am just wondering of the PC specifications that you have.
>>
>> Blitzed.  Our power "blipped" a couple of times today.  PC did not 
>> survive the second occurrence.
>>
>> Fortunately, my homeowner's policy covers "replacement cost" (less 
>> deductible, of course).  Given the age of the PC (Win98SE), anything I 
>> replace it with will be incredibly fast by comparison.
>>
>> (I don't know whether to blame the power company or to thank them.)
>>
>> Fortunately, back up laptop had battery power to handle the situation.

Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power Supply 
Unit

> You need an ups mister.

Smart UPS, even

> And your insurance company is stupid if minus the deductible of current 
> value of your computer is enough to buy a newer better computer.

You mean you guys have insurance for a computer?! What do you have on your 
computer that is worth protecting?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
<ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power Supply 
>Unit

Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(

>Smart UPS, even

As opposed to... a stupid UPS?

>You mean you guys have insurance for a computer?! What do you have on your 
>computer that is worth protecting?

Homeowners insurance covers lots of stuff... theft, sometimes natural
disasters, (apparently) electrical damage... I'd have thought the
power company would be liable if you can specify the time frame the
power spikes occured. What's on it that's worth protecting? The
computer itself is pretty expensive, usually...

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"Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power Supply
>>Unit
>
> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(

Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO

>>Smart UPS, even
>
> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?

Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup

>>You mean you guys have insurance for a computer?! What do you have on your
>>computer that is worth protecting?
>
> Homeowners insurance covers lots of stuff... theft, sometimes natural
> disasters, (apparently) electrical damage... I'd have thought the
> power company would be liable if you can specify the time frame the
> power spikes occured. What's on it that's worth protecting? The
> computer itself is pretty expensive, usually...

I suppose it depends on what kind of computer you're trying to protect. 
Servers, mainframes & minis for example are worth protecting. However most 
of the time the thing that is worth protecting is data.
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The Ignorant Asian 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
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> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>Supply
>>>Unit
>>
>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>
> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO

No you are wrong

>>>Smart UPS, even
>>
>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>
> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup

Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.

>>>You mean you guys have insurance for a computer?! What do you have on 
>>>your
>>>computer that is worth protecting?
>>
>> Homeowners insurance covers lots of stuff... theft, sometimes natural
>> disasters, (apparently) electrical damage... I'd have thought the
>> power company would be liable if you can specify the time frame the
>> power spikes occured. What's on it that's worth protecting? The
>> computer itself is pretty expensive, usually...
>
> I suppose it depends on what kind of computer you're trying to protect. 
> Servers, mainframes & minis for example are worth protecting. However most 
> of the time the thing that is worth protecting is data.

I use DVD-R's for those kind of backups!

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Luc The Perverse wrote:
> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message 
>> news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>> Supply
>>>> Unit
>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
> 
> No you are wrong
> 
>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup
> 
> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.

It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.

Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...

"Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
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> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in 
>>> message news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>>> Supply
>>>>> Unit
>>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
>>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
>>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
>>
>> No you are wrong
>>
>>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup
>>
>> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.
>
> It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
> electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.
>
> Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...

It was probably an old piece of shit that stopped protecting you a long time 
ago

(Best read with an Eric Cartman voice.)

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"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
> news:292dnVxZusQ6E7DZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@bright.net...
>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in 
>>>> message news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>> Unit
>>>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which then
>>>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
>>>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>>>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
>>>
>>> No you are wrong
>>>
>>>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>>>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup
>>>
>>> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.
>>
>> It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
>> electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.
>>
>> Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...
>
> It was probably an old piece of shit that stopped protecting you a long 
> time ago


LOL. That's probably the worst excuse for an UPS (when it fails to do it's 
job)


> (Best read with an Eric Cartman voice.)


The who?
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
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> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
> news:msq0g3xdum.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> "Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
>> news:292dnVxZusQ6E7DZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@bright.net...
>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in 
>>>>> message news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>>>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>>> Unit
>>>>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which 
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd etc),
>>>>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>>>>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
>>>>
>>>> No you are wrong
>>>>
>>>>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>>>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>>>>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as backup
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.
>>>
>>> It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
>>> electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.
>>>
>>> Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...
>>
>> It was probably an old piece of shit that stopped protecting you a long 
>> time ago
>
>
> LOL. That's probably the worst excuse for an UPS (when it fails to do it's 
> job)
>
>
>> (Best read with an Eric Cartman voice.)
>
>
> The who?

OMG YAY!  You are alive!

I was worried you were dead

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"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
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> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
> news:r336g3x5iu.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in 
>> message news:msq0g3xdum.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>> "Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:292dnVxZusQ6E7DZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@bright.net...
>>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in 
>>>>>> message news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>>>>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the Power 
>>>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>>>> Unit
>>>>>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which 
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd 
>>>>>>> etc),
>>>>>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>>>>>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
>>>>>
>>>>> No you are wrong
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>>>>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>>>>>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as 
>>>>>> backup
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.
>>>>
>>>> It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
>>>> electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.
>>>>
>>>> Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...
>>>
>>> It was probably an old piece of shit that stopped protecting you a long 
>>> time ago
>>
>>
>> LOL. That's probably the worst excuse for an UPS (when it fails to do 
>> it's job)
>>
>>
>>> (Best read with an Eric Cartman voice.)
>>
>>
>> The who?
>
> OMG YAY!  You are alive!

Yes I am

> I was worried you were dead

What a funny way to show your joyfulness. Anyway, you can rejoice now...
-- 
Steven Ung
The Ignorant Asian 

"Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
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> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message 
> news:f8j6g3xdu2.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>> news:r336g3x5iu.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>> "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamli...@cc.usu.edu> wrote in 
>>> message news:msq0g3xdum.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>> "Tom Schluter" <schl...@bright.net> wrote in message 
>>>> news:292dnVxZusQ6E7DZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@bright.net...
>>>>> Luc The Perverse wrote:
>>>>>> "Steven Ung" <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:ks9vf3x4na.ln2@loki.cmears.id.au...
>>>>>>> "Zealot The Crazy Lui" <ktwils...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in 
>>>>>>> message news:6ikp22dg6ntkkfor31bua0gc8cbiqkus17@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:01:52 +0800, "Steven Ung"
>>>>>>>> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Most probably the only parts that needs to be replaced is the 
>>>>>>>>> Power Supply
>>>>>>>>> Unit
>>>>>>>> Ehh? Un-Surge protected power line goes into a power supply which 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> passes it on to the motherboard/cpu & all internal periphs (hdd 
>>>>>>>> etc),
>>>>>>>> higher than normal voltage fries everything. Nobody lives. :(
>>>>>>> Not really. Most of the time the PSU goes but not the MOBO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you are wrong
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Smart UPS, even
>>>>>>>> As opposed to... a stupid UPS?
>>>>>>> Normal UPS do not regulate the power but rather only provide as 
>>>>>>> backup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again.   Surge protection is uber cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was on a surge protector strip.  I always put any 
>>>>> electrical/electronics of any value on a surge strip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aahhhh.... what a way to bring new life to a dying thread...
>>>>
>>>> It was probably an old piece of shit that stopped protecting you a long 
>>>> time ago
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL. That's probably the worst excuse for an UPS (when it fails to do 
>>> it's job)
>>>
>>>
>>>> (Best read with an Eric Cartman voice.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The who?
>>
>> OMG YAY!  You are alive!
>
> Yes I am
>
>> I was worried you were dead
>
> What a funny way to show your joyfulness. Anyway, you can rejoice now...

*Yay luc is rejoicing*

It's seems so . . .anticlimatic

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