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On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I
> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you originals
> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.

I guess I'll see if I get any replies before I actually unsubscribe:)

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
>> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
>> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I
>> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
>> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you originals
>> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
> 
> I guess I'll see if I get any replies before I actually unsubscribe:)

I guess I'll reply then. :D
How's it been? Do you play quakelive? If so, let's rumble! Add me to your 
friends list, my username is dksittingduck on there!
Usenet is not what it used to be, I think the online forums, and sites like 
myspace, facebook, etc. have drained it of many users.
I use a client that hides groups without new messages, so I still have 
groups like this one in my subscribed list, I just rarely ever see them.

-- 
Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of 
the average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr

On 11/4/2010 1:12 PM, sittingduck wrote:
> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
>>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
>>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
>>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
>>> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
>>> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I
>>> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
>>> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you originals
>>> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
>>
>> I guess I'll see if I get any replies before I actually unsubscribe:)
>
> I guess I'll reply then. :D
> How's it been? Do you play quakelive? If so, let's rumble! Add me to your
> friends list, my username is dksittingduck on there!
> Usenet is not what it used to be, I think the online forums, and sites like
> myspace, facebook, etc. have drained it of many users.

I agree there.
I have my own forum, I'll admit. (If any of you g0m0s want to join me 
there, just let me know! It's Diablo-centric but gamers of all stripes 
are welcome!)

> I use a client that hides groups without new messages, so I still have
> groups like this one in my subscribed list, I just rarely ever see them.
>

On 11/4/2010 12:14 PM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I
> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you originals
> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.

Oh, man!
Yeah, it's so quiet here now, makes me sad too. The Quake 2 and Quake 3 
NGs used to be hopping.

I play QuakeLive occasionally - actually it's been forever since I've 
logged in! - but feel free to add ImperiusDamian to your friends :D

OscartheGrouch said the following on 11/4/2010 11:14 AM:
> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I
> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you originals
> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
yeah... lots of good memories of the AGQx gang - still have the bumper 
sticker! Take care and I'll see you on the other side.

-- 
(^\pop/^)
I'm lost... I've gone to look for myself.
If I should return before I get back, keep me here.
--

On 11/4/2010 11:57 AM, ImperiusDamian wrote:
> On 11/4/2010 1:12 PM, sittingduck wrote:
>> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
>>>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
>>>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
>>>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
>>>> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
>>>> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me
>>>> down. I
>>>> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
>>>> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you
>>>> originals
>>>> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
>>>
>>> I guess I'll see if I get any replies before I actually unsubscribe:)
>>
>> I guess I'll reply then. :D
>> How's it been? Do you play quakelive? If so, let's rumble! Add me to your
>> friends list, my username is dksittingduck on there!
>> Usenet is not what it used to be, I think the online forums, and sites
>> like
>> myspace, facebook, etc. have drained it of many users.
>
> I agree there.
> I have my own forum, I'll admit. (If any of you g0m0s want to join me
> there, just let me know! It's Diablo-centric but gamers of all stripes
> are welcome!)
>
>> I use a client that hides groups without new messages, so I still have
>> groups like this one in my subscribed list, I just rarely ever see them.
>>
>

Ducky,

Yeah, every once in a while a play quakelive. I'll add you and 
ImperiusDamian and try to run into you guys sometime. Thanks again for 
all the great memories.

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> Ducky,
> Yeah, every once in a while a play quakelive. I'll add you and 
> ImperiusDamian and try to run into you guys sometime. Thanks again for 
> all the great memories.

Yeah, good times when the clan DK was playing a lot....
BTW, you can't ever leave the clan, you are DK for life! :)
I sent you a clan invite in QL if you want to tag up!

-- 
Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of the 
average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr

On Nov 4, 10:21 pm, OscartheGrouch <tonda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/4/2010 11:57 AM, ImperiusDamian wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/4/2010 1:12 PM, sittingduck wrote:
> >> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
> >>> On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
> >>>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
> >>>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
> >>>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good
> >>>> stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It
> >>>> was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings me
> >>>> down. I
> >>>> kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out
> >>>> nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all you
> >>>> originals
> >>>> for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
>
> >>> I guess I'll see if I get any replies before I actually unsubscribe:)
>
> >> I guess I'll reply then. :D
> >> How's it been? Do you play quakelive? If so, let's rumble! Add me to your
> >> friends list, my username is dksittingduck on there!
> >> Usenet is not what it used to be, I think the online forums, and sites
> >> like
> >> myspace, facebook, etc. have drained it of many users.
>
> > I agree there.
> > I have my own forum, I'll admit. (If any of you g0m0s want to join me
> > there, just let me know! It's Diablo-centric but gamers of all stripes
> > are welcome!)
>
> >> I use a client that hides groups without new messages, so I still have
> >> groups like this one in my subscribed list, I just rarely ever see them.
>
> Ducky,
>
> Yeah, every once in a while a play quakelive. I'll add you and
> ImperiusDamian and try to run into you guys sometime. Thanks again for
> all the great memories.

Hey, I came back via google. Duck, my quakelive name is Chico-Esquela,
so maybe I'm [dk]Chico or something?
Please send me something using that name that I could respond to you
as I am pretty lame
and can't seem to send a message in quakelive. Kinda like the way I
was pretty lame at the game
of q3 you know? When I'm in there I mostly look for instagib servers,
Is there a ffa you guys are on? Oh hey, Pop,
good to hear from you. And one of you guys got hold of me via my email
and told me about
pornofinish, thanks, I'll look you up. Hell I might as well
resubscribe if I'm going to talk this much.

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> Hey, I came back via google. Duck, my quakelive name is Chico-Esquela,
> so maybe I'm [dk]Chico or something?
> Please send me something using that name that I could respond to you
> as I am pretty lame
> and can't seem to send a message in quakelive. Kinda like the way I
> was pretty lame at the game
> of q3 you know? When I'm in there I mostly look for instagib servers,
> Is there a ffa you guys are on? Oh hey, Pop,
> good to hear from you. And one of you guys got hold of me via my email
> and told me about
> pornofinish, thanks, I'll look you up. Hell I might as well
> resubscribe if I'm going to talk this much.

I sent you a clan invite. You are already in my friends list, if I'm online 
you'll see my name there. QL doesn't really have much of a messaging 
systme, you can chat with your friends if they are online, just click the 
name in the list.


-- 
Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of 
the average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr

On 11/13/2010 8:58 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
> Hey, I came back via google. Duck, my quakelive name is Chico-Esquela,
> so maybe I'm [dk]Chico or something?
> Please send me something using that name that I could respond to you
> as I am pretty lame
> and can't seem to send a message in quakelive. Kinda like the way I
> was pretty lame at the game
> of q3 you know? When I'm in there I mostly look for instagib servers,
> Is there a ffa you guys are on? Oh hey, Pop,
> good to hear from you. And one of you guys got hold of me via my email
> and told me about
> pornofinish, thanks, I'll look you up. Hell I might as well
> resubscribe if I'm going to talk this much.

You might as well! ;)

I'm pretty lame at QuakeLive TBH... I kinda suck :P I just jump on the 
first FFA server I see and try my best to blow some people away with the 
RL... ;)

On 11/16/2010 10:08 PM, ImperiusDamian wrote:
> On 11/13/2010 8:58 AM, OscartheGrouch wrote:
>>
>> Hey, I came back via google. Duck, my quakelive name is Chico-Esquela,
>> so maybe I'm [dk]Chico or something?
>> Please send me something using that name that I could respond to you
>> as I am pretty lame
>> and can't seem to send a message in quakelive. Kinda like the way I
>> was pretty lame at the game
>> of q3 you know? When I'm in there I mostly look for instagib servers,
>> Is there a ffa you guys are on? Oh hey, Pop,
>> good to hear from you. And one of you guys got hold of me via my email
>> and told me about
>> pornofinish, thanks, I'll look you up. Hell I might as well
>> resubscribe if I'm going to talk this much.
>
> You might as well! ;)
>
> I'm pretty lame at QuakeLive TBH... I kinda suck :P I just jump on the
> first FFA server I see and try my best to blow some people away with the
> RL... ;)

Ta da, I resubscribed. Hey I played sittingduck in a match the other day 
he invited me to join. Talk about lame...me I mean. I'm lucky if I get 
half his score. Instagib and urban terror for me. If anyone is 
interested my servers are Bite Me rails and Seattle TDM Urban Terror 
team deathmatch.

Does anyone know of a better solution to usenet than eternal september? 
It works fine, then deletes all posts older than 4 months. On the 
upside, it's free but I don't like losing all the older posts.

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> Ta da, I resubscribed. Hey I played sittingduck in a match the other day 
> he invited me to join. Talk about lame...me I mean. I'm lucky if I get 
> half his score. Instagib and urban terror for me. If anyone is 
> interested my servers are Bite Me rails and Seattle TDM Urban Terror 
> team deathmatch.
> 
> Does anyone know of a better solution to usenet than eternal september? 
> It works fine, then deletes all posts older than 4 months. On the 
> upside, it's free but I don't like losing all the older posts. 

http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get
Buy a $2, 2GB block from them. If you're only using it for text groups, it 
should last you pretty much forever.
They have about 3 years worth of retention for text groups!

Wow.   Lots of old names in here!   OtG if yer still lookin, good to see ya!
McG.

"OscartheGrouch" <tondaleo@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:iaum5l$kvk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I 
> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx thing 
> was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that good stuff. 
> Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and aj. It was a fun 
> place back then. But like I said now it just brings me down. I kept 
> wondering what will be the next big thing like that. Turns out nothing 
> ever matched this place in it's heyday.  Thanks all you originals for all 
> the good times. Unsubscribing now. 

On 8/30/2011 1:43 PM, McG. wrote:
> Wow. Lots of old names in here! OtG if yer still lookin, good to see ya!
> McG.
>
> "OscartheGrouch" <tondaleo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iaum5l$kvk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that
>> good stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and
>> aj. It was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings
>> me down. I kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that.
>> Turns out nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all
>> you originals for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
>

Hey man, how ya doing? Ya I didn't totally go away.

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> Hey man, how ya doing? Ya I didn't totally go away.

Oscar! Come play some OpenArena at digichalk!

"OscartheGrouch" <tondaleo@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:j48a27$r0v$1@dont-email.me...
> On 8/30/2011 1:43 PM, McG. wrote:
>> Wow. Lots of old names in here! OtG if yer still lookin, good to see ya!
>> McG.
>>
>> "OscartheGrouch" <tondaleo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:iaum5l$kvk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> This place was my intro to usenet. Kept it for sentimental reasons I
>>> guess. Now it just kinda brings me down. I came along after the AGQx
>>> thing was in full swing and pornofinish and Lamerkatz and all that
>>> good stuff. Oh yeah, and endless stupid flame wars between tomo and
>>> aj. It was a fun place back then. But like I said now it just brings
>>> me down. I kept wondering what will be the next big thing like that.
>>> Turns out nothing ever matched this place in it's heyday. Thanks all
>>> you originals for all the good times. Unsubscribing now.
>>
>
> Hey man, how ya doing? Ya I didn't totally go away.

I'm still around.   Bit taller than wide now and nicotine free for 15 
months.  :)
Hadn't played the Quakes at all for a few years.  Never did the SP Q3 thing, 
but did for Quake and Quake2.   I was surprised that Win 7 Pro 64 bits not 
only allowed these older games to be installed but is running them fine. 
So I'm almost through Quake 2 for the first time in years.  Ha!
The Last time I did play any Q2 at all was with Evil Bill!  :D
McG. 

On 9/7/2011 11:08 AM, sittingduck wrote:
> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
>> Hey man, how ya doing? Ya I didn't totally go away.
>
> Oscar! Come play some OpenArena at digichalk!

Ok. What? Lol. Where....

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> On 9/7/2011 11:08 AM, sittingduck wrote:

>> Oscar! Come play some OpenArena at digichalk!

> Ok. What? Lol. Where....

http://www.openarena.ws/smfnews.php  Go there, get 0.8.1, then get the 
0.8.5 PATCH.

It's q3, but totally open source. Same weapons, Same movement, just 
different models and textures.

Digichalk is a server in Seattle; 
Digichalk 0.8.5 || 207.66.255.52:27960

-- 
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re gonna get selfish, ignorant 
leaders. -George Carlin

On 9/7/2011 10:14 PM, McG. wrote:
>
> I'm still around. Bit taller than wide now and nicotine free for 15
> months. :)
> Hadn't played the Quakes at all for a few years. Never did the SP Q3
> thing, but did for Quake and Quake2. I was surprised that Win 7 Pro 64
> bits not only allowed these older games to be installed but is running
> them fine. So I'm almost through Quake 2 for the first time in years. Ha!
> The Last time I did play any Q2 at all was with Evil Bill! :D
> McG.

Haha! Good old times. ;)
I still play some good old-fashioned SPQ2 from time to time (or Eraser 
bot Q2. *nods*)

-- 
ImperiusDamian
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com
Diablo II Gemstone IV Mod
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com/diablo/gemstone.php

On 9/15/2011 9:09 PM, sittingduck wrote:
> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
>> On 9/7/2011 11:08 AM, sittingduck wrote:
>
>>> Oscar! Come play some OpenArena at digichalk!
>
>> Ok. What? Lol. Where....
>
> http://www.openarena.ws/smfnews.php  Go there, get 0.8.1, then get the
> 0.8.5 PATCH.
>
> It's q3, but totally open source. Same weapons, Same movement, just
> different models and textures.
>
> Digichalk is a server in Seattle;
> Digichalk 0.8.5 || 207.66.255.52:27960
>

Found it. Fun.

OscartheGrouch wrote:

>> Digichalk is a server in Seattle;
>> Digichalk 0.8.5 || 207.66.255.52:27960
>>
> 
> Found it. Fun.

Cool! There's also a san jose server that's pretty good, some nice custom 
maps on this one. 
^1M^2e^4T^5a^6L^3NET ^5DM Classic   173.255.219.186:27965
Make sure you turn on auto-download, either in the menus, or the console. 
seta cl_allowDownload "1"

-- 
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re gonna get selfish, ignorant 
leaders. -George Carlin

On 10/3/2011 1:00 AM, sittingduck wrote:
> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
>>> Digichalk is a server in Seattle;
>>> Digichalk 0.8.5 || 207.66.255.52:27960
>>>
>>
>> Found it. Fun.
>
> Cool! There's also a san jose server that's pretty good, some nice custom
> maps on this one.
> ^1M^2e^4T^5a^6L^3NET ^5DM Classic   173.255.219.186:27965
> Make sure you turn on auto-download, either in the menus, or the console.
> seta cl_allowDownload "1"
>

Looks good! I just DLed the current OpenArena build on my laptop and 
played some practice maps in SP to try it out.

Next up I need to put it on my desktop so I can turn up the eye-candy. ;)

-- 
ImperiusDamian
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com
Diablo II Gemstone IV Mod
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com/diablo/gemstone.php

ImperiusDamian wrote:

> Looks good! I just DLed the current OpenArena build on my laptop and 
> played some practice maps in SP to try it out.
> 
> Next up I need to put it on my desktop so I can turn up the eye-candy. ;)

Yeah, it's pretty fun. Quake 3 with all open source stuff.

You can play q3 maps in it, no problem. Some mods even work. I have a few 
things here that you might want to play with: http://quakefour.net/oa/
HULK.pk3 is tankjr painted green, and works in OA. 
gpl-q3a2oa-textures.pk3 helps replace missing textures in q3 maps.
autoexec.cfg is my config, you may or may not find it helpful.

On 10/3/2011 9:12 PM, sittingduck wrote:
> ImperiusDamian wrote:
>
>> Looks good! I just DLed the current OpenArena build on my laptop and
>> played some practice maps in SP to try it out.
>>
>> Next up I need to put it on my desktop so I can turn up the eye-candy. ;)
>
> Yeah, it's pretty fun. Quake 3 with all open source stuff.
>
> You can play q3 maps in it, no problem. Some mods even work. I have a few
> things here that you might want to play with: http://quakefour.net/oa/
> HULK.pk3 is tankjr painted green, and works in OA.
> gpl-q3a2oa-textures.pk3 helps replace missing textures in q3 maps.
> autoexec.cfg is my config, you may or may not find it helpful.

So is quake live just gone?

OscartheGrouch wrote:

> So is quake live just gone?

It's still there.

On 10/4/2011 9:13 PM, sittingduck wrote:
> OscartheGrouch wrote:
>
>> So is quake live just gone?
>
> It's still there.
>
>

Ok, my link was messed up. So anyway I didn't really end up going away 
as much as I thought I would.

"ImperiusDamian" <damianblack.wolf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:j681ro$4f0$3@dont-email.me...
> On 9/7/2011 10:14 PM, McG. wrote:
>>
>> I'm still around. Bit taller than wide now and nicotine free for 15
>> months. :)
>> Hadn't played the Quakes at all for a few years. Never did the SP Q3
>> thing, but did for Quake and Quake2. I was surprised that Win 7 Pro 64
>> bits not only allowed these older games to be installed but is running
>> them fine. So I'm almost through Quake 2 for the first time in years. Ha!
>> The Last time I did play any Q2 at all was with Evil Bill! :D
>> McG.
>
> Haha! Good old times. ;)
> I still play some good old-fashioned SPQ2 from time to time (or Eraser bot 
> Q2. *nods*)
>
> -- 
> ImperiusDamian

I spent a weekend playing through Q2 SP on Win 7 Pro x64 and man did I ever 
feel the nostalgia!
McG. 

On 10/4/2011 12:12 AM, sittingduck wrote:
> ImperiusDamian wrote:
>
>> Looks good! I just DLed the current OpenArena build on my laptop and
>> played some practice maps in SP to try it out.
>>
>> Next up I need to put it on my desktop so I can turn up the eye-candy. ;)
>
> Yeah, it's pretty fun. Quake 3 with all open source stuff.
>
> You can play q3 maps in it, no problem. Some mods even work. I have a few
> things here that you might want to play with: http://quakefour.net/oa/
> HULK.pk3 is tankjr painted green, and works in OA.
> gpl-q3a2oa-textures.pk3 helps replace missing textures in q3 maps.
> autoexec.cfg is my config, you may or may not find it helpful.

Awesome, I'll check that out :D

-- 
ImperiusDamian
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com
Diablo II Gemstone IV Mod
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com/diablo/gemstone.php

On 10/10/2011 12:09 PM, McG. wrote:
>
> I spent a weekend playing through Q2 SP on Win 7 Pro x64 and man did I
> ever feel the nostalgia!
> McG.

Haha nice!
Hey, I still LIVE the nostalgia: I'm still on XP. ;)

Well, Vista on the desktop, but the wife uses that for Photoshop so I'm 
relegated to the laptop much of the time. :P

-- 
ImperiusDamian
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com
Diablo II Gemstone IV Mod
http://damiansdominion.byethost7.com/diablo/gemstone.php

"ImperiusDamian" <damianblack.wolf@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:j75j05$b4t$2@dont-email.me...
> On 10/10/2011 12:09 PM, McG. wrote:
>>
>> I spent a weekend playing through Q2 SP on Win 7 Pro x64 and man did I
>> ever feel the nostalgia!
>> McG.
>
> Haha nice!
> Hey, I still LIVE the nostalgia: I'm still on XP. ;)
>
> Well, Vista on the desktop, but the wife uses that for Photoshop so I'm 
> relegated to the laptop much of the time. :P
>
> -- 
> ImperiusDamian

Wow, coolness.   In the US, married and all that cool stuff.   Congrats man! 
:-D

I sorta drifted away from gaming so much and got into messing around with 3D 
stuff and even heavier into 2D graphics/art.   Poser, Vue, Modo, ZBrush and 
supporting all that with Photoshop CS4 Extended and Paint Shop Pro X. 
What got me into this mess?   Um, well Quake 3 and a little skinning on some 
of the player models, actually!  Ha!  Started off 3D with MilkShape3D.  It's 
still the fastest modeler I own.  But it IS kinda poly limited.   Still fun 
tho!
McG.