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In article <hdjhj45bssfrkrper7ij4onvrg0docneva@4ax.com>, 
noone@nowhere.com says...> 
> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
> XP, 

Didn't know there were problems with Q2 at all. I belive Q2 is the most 
stable game ever.

Todd wrote:

> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
> XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
> I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
> 
> UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
> game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
> that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
> on perfection.

Either that, or they're not as popular as they once were, since the game 
industry has moved on to a whole raft of new types of online games, 
especially concentrating on team-based and objective-based games.

> So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
> find to be the funnest?
> 
> (Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
> never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
> some kind of afterlife.)

It's not very much of a decent explanation.  _Unreal Tournament 3_ tries 
a more coherent explanation, but it's still not very convincing (and 
didn't receive very good reviews in any case).  If you're looking for an 
"arena"-style deathmatch game where you die and respawn, then I think 
you're just going to have to face the fact that there's no real rational 
way to explain that and just play and enjoy yourself.

> (One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
> the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
> game types.)

A large majority of the modern team-based FPS games have vehicles, 
because that's what people want.

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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:03:07 -0800, Todd <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
>XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
>I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
>
>UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
>game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
>that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
>on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
>UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
>
>So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
>find to be the funnest?
>
>(Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
>never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
>some kind of afterlife.)
>
>(One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
>the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
>game types.)
>


Stopped playing Q3 about a year ago, after ASE crapped out. Decided to
give UT (Urban Terror) a go and love it. Simple, free, lottsa fun and
despite more hacking than I saw in Q3, there are enough good servers
that police themselves well.

Todd wrote:
> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
> XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
> I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
> 
> UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
> game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
> that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
> on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
> UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
> 
> So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
> find to be the funnest?
> 
> (Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
> never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
> some kind of afterlife.)
> 
> (One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
> the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
> game types.)
> 
> 
  Urban Terror. And q3 instaunlagged instagib if I can find people.

Todd wrote:
> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
> XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
> I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
> 
> UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
> game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
> that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
> on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
> UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
> 
> So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
> find to be the funnest?
> 
> (Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
> never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
> some kind of afterlife.)
> 
> (One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
> the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
> game types.)
> 
> 
Man, i cant believe this old group is still here........lol

I have not posted to this group in years now. Glad to see its somewhat 
still alive.

But to answer your question, i more or less play Enemy Territory now 
more than anything. But i still have a few Q3 servers up and running 
right along side my Enemy Territory servers.

JAKS.

I am playing on Comcast and suddenly 4-5 months ago I can still see many 
many servers of Enemy Territory on xfire (100 or less ping) to play BUT 
always have problems with connection or server message 22. When I try to 
stay online with Enemy Territory and "play online" no servers show to play 
.. always getting errors about pak. Been playing for year w/no problem 
except about a year or so ago had the same problem. Forgot solution.

Also about 3 years ago I changed to new video board and lcd and have not 
been able to play Quake 3. Using pny geforce 8500gt 512 ddr2. Lost settings 
I had in config file and xfire startup for the game but somehow low it and 
thought could be problem. Now computer just locks up.


"Mr Buckly" <mrbuckly@windstream.net> wrote in message 
news:e5696$49509c8c$471e51b5$15158@ALLTEL.NET...
> Todd wrote:
>> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
>> XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
>> I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
>>
>> UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
>> game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
>> that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
>> on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
>> UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
>>
>> So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
>> find to be the funnest?
>>
>> (Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
>> never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
>> some kind of afterlife.)
>>
>> (One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
>> the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
>> game types.)
>>
>>
> Man, i cant believe this old group is still here........lol
>
> I have not posted to this group in years now. Glad to see its somewhat 
> still alive.
>
> But to answer your question, i more or less play Enemy Territory now more 
> than anything. But i still have a few Q3 servers up and running right 
> along side my Enemy Territory servers.
>
> JAKS. 

Quake 3 Arena.

Killings those cheating bots at nightmare mode gives me some statisfaction
:)

Also little bit of L4D but got a bit bored with it... it's too easy...
(zombies don't shoot) and then too difficult too when there are 20 around
you ;)

And ofcourse the occasional BF2 :)

I'm kinda looking forward to Aliens: Colonial Marines... just because I'm a
little aliens fan too...

Even if they game sux I still wanna play it lol :) just to soke up the
atmosphere me hopes ;) :) and good sounds me hopes ! ;) and good animations
lol yadyayadyaydyadyada lol.

Bye,
  Skybuck ;)

Still playing Quake 2 :)

"Mr Buckly" <mrbuckly@windstream.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:e5696$49509c8c$471e51b5$15158@ALLTEL.NET...
> Todd wrote:
>> I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
>> XP, I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
>> I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
>>
>> UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
>> game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
>> that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
>> on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
>> UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
>>
>> So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
>> find to be the funnest?
>>
>> (Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
>> never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
>> some kind of afterlife.)
>>
>> (One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
>> the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
>> game types.)
>>
>>
> Man, i cant believe this old group is still here........lol
>
> I have not posted to this group in years now. Glad to see its somewhat 
> still alive.
>
> But to answer your question, i more or less play Enemy Territory now more 
> than anything. But i still have a few Q3 servers up and running right 
> along side my Enemy Territory servers.
>
> JAKS.

still playing quake 1, quake 2, quake 4, and doom 3... till doom 4 come out
some day... :-)

bye, DUDI

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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:03:07 -0800, Todd <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
>XP,

I tried a manual install with XP and it runs. I found instructions for a manual installation at
gamespot, see below.

I have't tried the update (q2-3.20-x86-ful.exe) from idsoftware.com and I'd like to know if it works
in XP. The update is needed to connect to a server. I couldn't get openGL to work. It's a new
computer (Dell) with onboard graphics (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100) that is supposed to
support OpenGL. Does anyone know how to make this work?

It might be time to just move on to something newer but I'd like to have the option of playing
Quake2.

================

From: The Admiral 1/14 7:55AM

You need to do a manual install. This can be a little tricky, but it's been confirmed to work for
Vista and is recommended by Activision.

1) Install the CD and enter the MS-DOS Prompt (START / Programs / Accessories / Command Prompt or
whatever way you want)

2) In the DOS Session type the following:

cd\ (press the Enter key)
md quake2 (press the Enter key
cd\quake2 (press the Enter key)
xcopy d:\install\data\*.* /s/e/v (press the Enter key)

This creates the Quake 2 folder in the root directory, but you can create or later move the
directory any where you want.

3) After it's done copying the files, type "Exit" and then press the Enter key. You should now be
back in Windows.

4) Go to the "Quake2" folder you created above.

5) Right-click on the file called: Quake2.exe, choose "Copy".

6) Now close all the windows and right-click on the Desktop of Windows and select "Paste Shortcut".

7) Next, right-click on the "Shortcut to Quake2" and choose "Properties". Click on the "Shortcut"
tab at the top.

8) In the section that says "Target", add the following to the end of the line (after adding a
space):

+set cddir D:\install\data +set basedir C:\QUAKE2

It should look like this when you're done:

C:\Quake2\quake2.exe +set cddir D:\install\data +set basedir C:\QUAKE2

9) Click on "Apply" and then "Ok"

10) To run Quake 2, double-click on the "Shortcut to Quake2" icon.




> I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
>I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
>
>UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
>game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
>that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
>on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
>UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
>
>So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
>find to be the funnest?
>
>(Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
>never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
>some kind of afterlife.)
>
>(One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
>the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
>game types.)
>

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:57:51 -0500, The Pope <pope@no.mail> wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:03:07 -0800, Todd <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>I loved Quake 2 multi-player, but when I couldn't get it to run under
>>XP,
>
>I tried a manual install with XP and it runs. I found instructions for a manual installation at
>gamespot, see below.
>
>I have't tried the update (q2-3.20-x86-ful.exe) from idsoftware.com and I'd like to know if it works
>in XP.

I found some answers.

This udate only extracts files into the quake folder using winunzip and you can choose where to
extract them.

> The update is needed to connect to a server. I couldn't get openGL to work. It's a new
>computer (Dell) with onboard graphics (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100) that is supposed to
>support OpenGL. Does anyone know how to make this work?

Change the Windows desktop color from 32 bit to 16 bit and OpenGL works. I vaguely remember that now
from several years ago.

I've been playing a little at tastyspleen.net
74.54.186.226:27916

>
>It might be time to just move on to something newer but I'd like to have the option of playing
>Quake2.
>
>================
>
>From: The Admiral 1/14 7:55AM
>
>You need to do a manual install. This can be a little tricky, but it's been confirmed to work for
>Vista and is recommended by Activision.
>
>1) Install the CD and enter the MS-DOS Prompt (START / Programs / Accessories / Command Prompt or
>whatever way you want)
>
>2) In the DOS Session type the following:
>
>cd\ (press the Enter key)
>md quake2 (press the Enter key
>cd\quake2 (press the Enter key)
>xcopy d:\install\data\*.* /s/e/v (press the Enter key)
>
>This creates the Quake 2 folder in the root directory, but you can create or later move the
>directory any where you want.
>
>3) After it's done copying the files, type "Exit" and then press the Enter key. You should now be
>back in Windows.
>
>4) Go to the "Quake2" folder you created above.
>
>5) Right-click on the file called: Quake2.exe, choose "Copy".
>
>6) Now close all the windows and right-click on the Desktop of Windows and select "Paste Shortcut".
>
>7) Next, right-click on the "Shortcut to Quake2" and choose "Properties". Click on the "Shortcut"
>tab at the top.
>
>8) In the section that says "Target", add the following to the end of the line (after adding a
>space):
>
>+set cddir D:\install\data +set basedir C:\QUAKE2
>
>It should look like this when you're done:
>
>C:\Quake2\quake2.exe +set cddir D:\install\data +set basedir C:\QUAKE2
>
>9) Click on "Apply" and then "Ok"
>
>10) To run Quake 2, double-click on the "Shortcut to Quake2" icon.
>
>
>
>
>> I went to Unreal Tournament.  When I tried to get back to Quake 3,
>>I couldn't quite get the hang of it.
>>
>>UT is now up to version 3.  From the Quake/Doom people, an arena only
>>game hasn't been released since... Quake 3 Arena.  I guess Id realized
>>that they did it right the first time, and chose not to try to improve
>>on perfection.  On the Unreal side, there are more players on original
>>UT than either of its two (or three) sequels.
>>
>>So, for those who've tired of the Arena, what multiplayer games do you
>>find to be the funnest?
>>
>>(Another plus for Quake3: The background story makes more sense.  UT
>>never did explain how the players eternally die and respawn.  Q3 is
>>some kind of afterlife.)
>>
>>(One negative (to my knowledge): No vehicles.  I don't much care for
>>the vehicles, but Onslaught has the most servers running of all UT2004
>>game types.)
>>