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Miss Understanding wrote:

> I read an interesting idea on a web page recently, and it left me thinking.
> 
> Are Clans the source of cheats?  Do Clans exist to create and maintain
> undetectable Q3 cheats?  Whats the word on this?

It's been my experience that clans and the people in them are ANTI cheats. 
They hate them, and would never even consider using them.

"sittingduck" <you.love.sitting-duck@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> Miss Understanding wrote:
>
> > I read an interesting idea on a web page recently, and it left me
thinking.
> >
> > Are Clans the source of cheats?  Do Clans exist to create and maintain
> > undetectable Q3 cheats?  Whats the word on this?
>
> It's been my experience that clans and the people in them are ANTI cheats.
> They hate them, and would never even consider using them.

Fair enough - thanks.  Reading an interview with Tony Ray from EB and he
says -
"One time, an entire clan was kicked during a clan match at the same
instant - they were all using a cheat that had come out a few days prior."

It made sense to me that clans would be the people looking for,
experimenting with, and implementing hacks...  as they would have the most
to lose/gain from them.  In fact, if I thought I had a new clean
as-yet-unknown hack for the game, a clan might be the best place to offload
it, rather than personally appearing as a new dominant player out of the
blue.  Just thinking i guess - no stress.

--
M

On Monday 13 February 2006 16:01 Miss Understanding wrote:

> It made sense to me that clans would be the people looking for,
> experimenting with, and implementing hacks...  as they would have
> the most
> to lose/gain from them.  In fact, if I thought I had a new clean
> as-yet-unknown hack for the game, a clan might be the best place
> to offload it, rather than personally appearing as a new dominant
> player out of the
> blue.  Just thinking i guess - no stress.

Well FWIW, I lately entered a public UT2004 ASsault server and
there ppl were openly discussing where to get bots and how to
install them. When I made some dosed remarks about them being a
bunch of A^&%le losers that better start to learn doing something
by themselves they were clearly surprised at my position.

And I was even more stunned when I saw that at least 4 of them used
clan-tags, 3 of which were the same. I'm not exactly sure about my
memory regarding the name of the clan, so I refrain from
mentioning them, but I will keep a lookout.

Ursa..

Major Ursa wrote:
>
> And I was even more stunned when I saw that at least 4 of them used
> clan-tags, 3 of which were the same.

yep.  I've seen that before.  I even did a condump one time.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.quake3/search?group=alt.games.quake3&q=these%20ppl%20can%20blow%20me

those bastards were helping each other set the aimbot up!

I don't care anymore.  I only play with a few friends these days, and
we're all adults and we don't need our egos boosted by cheating.

<eric.nave@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Major Ursa wrote:
>>
>> And I was even more stunned when I saw that at least 4 of them used
>> clan-tags, 3 of which were the same.
>
> yep.  I've seen that before.  I even did a condump one time.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.quake3/search?group=alt.games.quake3&q=these%20ppl%20can%20blow%20me
>
> those bastards were helping each other set the aimbot up!
>
> I don't care anymore.  I only play with a few friends these days, and
> we're all adults and we don't need our egos boosted by cheating.
>

I've nearly given up online playing too. There are a few servers running the 
latest anti-cheat that seems to do a pretty good job, but the whole idea of 
someone poking around my rig just because I want to play on their server 
just gives me the willies. I've been really learning mapping and thats been 
a lot of fun. 

"Miss Understanding" <merliina_x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I read an interesting idea on a web page recently, and it left me
thinking.
>
> Are Clans the source of cheats?  Do Clans exist to create and maintain
> undetectable Q3 cheats?  Whats the word on this?

It seems that the latest PB update has knocked out some players!  Some of
the best players on this side of the globe have gone missing - the last time
they were seen playing, they were getting their a**es kicked.  Something
tells me that PB might not be so bad after all...  8-)
--
M

> 
" It seems that the latest PB update has knocked out some players!  Some
> of the best players on this side of the globe have gone missing - the
> last time they were seen playing, they were getting their a**es
> kicked.  Something tells me that PB might not be so bad after all... 
> 8-) -- "
> M
> 

This is quake 3 players?



I just played some games tonight. One guy was using wallhack or something 
like it on pro-tourney4. I lost 35-0 and even hid in a place 100% 
invisible and a rocket came whistling by my ear. When someone else joined 
the server I voted ZTN and because the spectator was watching the game 
the other guy couldnt cheat and I won 6-5. I said there is NO WAY that 
the same person was playing and he quit. That was with the latest PB 
patch on the server. He came back later with a different GUID and 
nickname and did the same on DM6 till I ALT+TAB+QUIT.

q3 is dead anyway
its not healthy to take the game so seriously you either cheat and hide 
it or get stressed with cheaters. unless its a league game then maybe 
fair enough.

Am Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:55:05 -0800 schrieb goPostal:

> <eric.nave@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:1140102174.990337.8840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Major Ursa wrote:
>>>
>>> And I was even more stunned when I saw that at least 4 of them used
>>> clan-tags, 3 of which were the same.
>>
>> yep.  I've seen that before.  I even did a condump one time.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.quake3/search?group=alt.games.quake3&q=these%20ppl%20can%20blow%20me
>>
>> those bastards were helping each other set the aimbot up!
>>
>> I don't care anymore.  I only play with a few friends these days, and
>> we're all adults and we don't need our egos boosted by cheating.
>>
> 
> I've nearly given up online playing too. There are a few servers running the 
> latest anti-cheat that seems to do a pretty good job, but the whole idea of 
> someone poking around my rig just because I want to play on their server 
> just gives me the willies. I've been really learning mapping and thats been 
> a lot of fun.

Dont give up.
There r still lots of Servers with anti-cheat soft running. I especially
like the Haleys Hothouse Servers, running gamespeed over normal.
Sometimes there are some great players there, playing teambased, not only
ego fragshooters.
My prob is, that i am located in Germany and have a ping of 130ms to these
northamerican servers, so i hardly cant compete with these guys.
But let them be on a server where i got a ping below 50, i frag the Hell
out of them.

Moinsen