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"supersonic" <kamikaze27@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ZdIve.2149$mK5.88746@news20.bellglobal.com...
> i know this is not new, but i noticed alot of game host telling to not
> spam... if they dont like ex: grenades, instead of weining like hell,
> kill/kick the player for no reasonand having to start all over again in
the
> scoring ranks, and telling ppl to not use grenades, why dont instead make
a
> game and disable this weapon.
>
> i dont see the big deal or any prob of using grenades, unless there is
> something im not aware of that it can in some way create probs in a game
> wich i dont see anyway it can. some ppl only use rail, some just machine
> gun. so whats the deal about grenades. sometimes i host a game and i dont
> care players using any kind of weapons as much as they want to.

Grenades are one of my favorite weapons in Q3 - of course I think it is a
good idea to be proficient in all the weapons, and not just have a couple of
fav ones that you use all the time.  This way there is an added element of
'fate' as you use whatever weapon appears in front of you.  I mean - its a
GAME for goodness sake..  8-)

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M

Blessed are the geek, for they shall inherit the Earth.

supersonic wrote:

> i know this is not new, but i noticed alot of game host telling to not 
> spam... if they dont like ex: grenades, instead of weining like hell, 
> kill/kick the player for no reasonand having to start all over again in
> the scoring ranks, and telling ppl to not use grenades, why dont instead
> make a game and disable this weapon.
> 
> i dont see the big deal or any prob of using grenades, unless there is 
> something im not aware of that it can in some way create probs in a game
> wich i dont see anyway it can. some ppl only use rail, some just machine
> gun. so whats the deal about grenades. sometimes i host a game and i
> dont care players using any kind of weapons as much as they want to. 
> 

I would say find another server to play on, but they are getting few and far 
between... you will have to put up with being kicked, or quit making them 
look like dipshits by killing them with grenades. :)

It's like this: some people have gotten really good with the rail gun.
They like to be able to walk into a room and just blast everyone away
with it.  Additionally, in many cases these people are using aimbots.

When defending an objective, it is the job of the defender to prevent
the attacker from achieving his goals.  One of the ways that this is
done in the real world is by denying the enemy a particular avenue of
approach.  This is often accomplished by specifying a field of fire for
a support weapon like a SAW or M-60.  In essence, the defender looks at
the terrain and says, "I think the enemy will come from this direction"
and so tells his support weapon gunner, "when I give the word, you fire
in this direction."  Now, when the attackers come, even if it's in the
dead of night, even if you can't see them, you can tell the gunner to
fire and you're sure to hurt the enemy.  On subsequent attacks, they'll
think twice about coming the same way.  The attacker has been denied an
avenue of approach.

There's nothing sneaky or underhanded about this.  It's not "lame."
It's not cheating.  It is a valid tactic that people have been using
for a very long time.  Unfortunately, it interferes with the ability of
people to walk into a room and start blasting people with the rail gun.

It comes down to arrogance and a sense of entitlement.  Look, I have
this aimbot.  I feel entitled to walk into this room and use my aimbot
to kill you.  By placing a grenade in the doorway of this room, you
impede my progress, and that pisses me off.  Rather than cope with this
by either dodging your grenade or entering from another door, the easy
thing for me to do is just kick you off my server.  I would rather play
with people who, like me, just want to walk into a room and blast away
with the railgun.

That's the way these server admins think.  It seems very juvenile to
me.  You would, very rightly, be labeled a cry baby if you put up a
server with a "no railgun" rule.  Well, I feel the same way about
people with "only railgun" rules.  They're just little crybabies.

I was recently accused of spamming and kicked from a server.  Here's
what I did wrong: it was threewave ctfs mode on q3wcp17, divided
crossings.  My team was on defense and I was the only person left
alive. The enemy flag carrier was the last person left on his team.  He
had just taken the flag and was in front of me.  On such a small map,
there's really no way that I could have caught up to him.  But I nailed
him with a rocket and that pushed him up into the little nook by the
lower left flag room exit.  I fired another rocket at the floor by the
exit, and another, and another.  He tried to get out but he caught one
of the rockets and died.

And then I was kicked for spamming.  In their eyes, what I should have
done is to stop firing rockets and just let him go.  He would have
stepped out and probably railed me, because he probably had an aimbot,
I don't use one.  At any rate, there's little chance that I could have
railed him.  And then he would be gone and there's no way I could have
caught him.  That's what the crybabies think I should have done.
That's typical of the way they think.

 wrote:

> 
> It's like this: some people have gotten really good with the rail gun.
> They like to be able to walk into a room and just blast everyone away
> with it.  Additionally, in many cases these people are using aimbots.

I just love it when people scream BOT! It means they are getting their asses 
kicked and can't stand it.

sittingduck wrote:
>
> I just love it when people scream BOT! It means they are getting their asses
> kicked and can't stand it.

Actually, if you can be bothered to take a look at this thread:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.games.quake3/browse_thread/thread/cca88601718c780b/3f3cce691c918bc2

You'll see that they *admitted* they were cheating.  I'm not "screaming
BOT" I'm just repeating what they said.

Also, in spite of the fact that they were cheating, I ended up with
higher dmg/time than they had.  What do you think of that?

 wrote:

> Actually, if you can be bothered to take a look at this thread:
> 
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.games.quake3/browse_thread/thread
> /cca88601718c780b/3f3cce691c918bc2 
> 
> You'll see that they *admitted* they were cheating.  I'm not "screaming
> BOT" I'm just repeating what they said.
> 
> Also, in spite of the fact that they were cheating, I ended up with
> higher dmg/time than they had.  What do you think of that?

I think the ratio of bot users to bot accusers is about 1:200

Miss Understanding <merliina_x@yahoo.com> typed as if devouring a plate
of spoo:
> "supersonic" <kamikaze27@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>
>> i dont see the big deal or any prob of using grenades, unless there
>> is something im not aware of that it can in some way create probs in
>> a game wich i dont see anyway it can. some ppl only use rail, some
>> just machine gun. so whats the deal about grenades. sometimes i host
>> a game and i dont care players using any kind of weapons as much as
>> they want to.
>
> Grenades are one of my favorite weapons in Q3 - of course I think it
> is a good idea to be proficient in all the weapons, and not just have
> a couple of fav ones that you use all the time.  This way there is an
> added element of 'fate' as you use whatever weapon appears in front
> of you.  I mean - its a GAME for goodness sake..  8-)

Amen to that; when I play, I tend to spam rockets all over the place ;)