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"EvilBill" <quake2livesGETLOSTSPAMMERS@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Sometimes in Q3 I'll just freeze up - I can look around, but it won't 
> respond to mouse-clicks or key presses in-game. I can still bring up the 
> Esc menu and the console but can't do anything in the game - and I'm not 
> lagged out, since this is offline play.

Could be mouse drivers? The latest drivers for my newfangled MS mouse caused 
trouble for Quake - it's one of the ones that lets you scroll sideways by 
tilting the wheel left and right, but accidentally doing it mid-game seemed 
to confuse the drivers and no further mouse input found its way to Quake 
until I restarted the game. IIRC clicking the scroll wheel while another 
button was down could confuse Quake too, it would lose track of the 
button_ups and sit waiting for you to let go.

Rolling back to earlier drivers sorted it out for me...

Just a thought

h 

"h" <h@NOSPAMhowiem.com> wrote in message
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> "EvilBill" <quake2livesGETLOSTSPAMMERS@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:murWd.2451$847.321@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> > Sometimes in Q3 I'll just freeze up - I can look around, but it won't
> > respond to mouse-clicks or key presses in-game. I can still bring up the
> > Esc menu and the console but can't do anything in the game - and I'm not
> > lagged out, since this is offline play.
>
> Could be mouse drivers? The latest drivers for my newfangled MS mouse
caused
> trouble for Quake - it's one of the ones that lets you scroll sideways by
> tilting the wheel left and right, but accidentally doing it mid-game
seemed
> to confuse the drivers and no further mouse input found its way to Quake
> until I restarted the game. IIRC clicking the scroll wheel while another
> button was down could confuse Quake too, it would lose track of the
> button_ups and sit waiting for you to let go.
>
> Rolling back to earlier drivers sorted it out for me...
>
> Just a thought
>
> h

Makes sense - if you can ESC out, means the game engine is still running.
My Logitech mouse drivers also caused confusion with the wheel/third button.
Allowing the OS to apply standard MS drivers for a wheel mouse instead of
using  the Logitech ones solved it for me too.

M

Miss Understanding <javaz3@yahoo.com> typed as if devouring a plate of
spoo:
> "h" <h@NOSPAMhowiem.com> wrote in message
> news:L0EWd.29538$8B3.24684@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "EvilBill" <quake2livesGETLOSTSPAMMERS@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:murWd.2451$847.321@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Sometimes in Q3 I'll just freeze up - I can look around, but it
>>> won't respond to mouse-clicks or key presses in-game. I can still
>>> bring up the Esc menu and the console but can't do anything in the
>>> game - and I'm not lagged out, since this is offline play.
>>
>> Could be mouse drivers? The latest drivers for my newfangled MS
>> mouse caused trouble for Quake - it's one of the ones that lets you
>> scroll sideways by tilting the wheel left and right, but
>> accidentally doing it mid-game seemed to confuse the drivers and no
>> further mouse input found its way to Quake until I restarted the
>> game. IIRC clicking the scroll wheel while another button was down
>> could confuse Quake too, it would lose track of the button_ups and
>> sit waiting for you to let go.
>>
>> Rolling back to earlier drivers sorted it out for me...
>>
>> Just a thought
>>
>> h
>
> Makes sense - if you can ESC out, means the game engine is still
> running. My Logitech mouse drivers also caused confusion with the
> wheel/third button. Allowing the OS to apply standard MS drivers for
> a wheel mouse instead of using  the Logitech ones solved it for me
> too.
>
> M

None of the keys except ESC and the console key work either.
I suppose it could be the drivers, but AFAIK I'm still using the ones that 
come with XP.

Oh, it's an MS Optical Wheelmouse BTW.

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> My Logitech mouse drivers also caused confusion with the wheel/third button.
> Allowing the OS to apply standard MS drivers for a wheel mouse instead of
> using  the Logitech ones solved it for me too.

I have Logitech MouseWare 9.79.1 installed with a Logitech pilot 
wheelmouse.  The only change needed to make the middle button work in 
quake3 ( and all other games), was to assign the middle button to 
'Middle Button' instead of the useless default in the logitech mouse 
properties.  I have winxp. the middle button and scroll wheel still 
works like it did with MS drivers.

Looks like mouseware doesn't fuck up your system like it did with win98 
anymore.  I only installed it because I've ordered an mx510, so I 
thought I'd test the drivers first.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:10:14 GMT, "EvilBill"
<quake2livesGETLOSTSPAMMERS@gmail.com> :

>Miss Understanding <javaz3@yahoo.com> typed as if devouring a plate of
>spoo:
>> "h" <h@NOSPAMhowiem.com> wrote in message
>> news:L0EWd.29538$8B3.24684@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> "EvilBill" <quake2livesGETLOSTSPAMMERS@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:murWd.2451$847.321@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Sometimes in Q3 I'll just freeze up - I can look around, but it
>>>> won't respond to mouse-clicks or key presses in-game. I can still
>>>> bring up the Esc menu and the console but can't do anything in the
>>>> game - and I'm not lagged out, since this is offline play.
>>>
>>> Could be mouse drivers? The latest drivers for my newfangled MS
>>> mouse caused trouble for Quake - it's one of the ones that lets you
>>> scroll sideways by tilting the wheel left and right, but
>>> accidentally doing it mid-game seemed to confuse the drivers and no
>>> further mouse input found its way to Quake until I restarted the
>>> game. IIRC clicking the scroll wheel while another button was down
>>> could confuse Quake too, it would lose track of the button_ups and
>>> sit waiting for you to let go.
>>>
>>> Rolling back to earlier drivers sorted it out for me...
>>>
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> h
>>
>> Makes sense - if you can ESC out, means the game engine is still
>> running. My Logitech mouse drivers also caused confusion with the
>> wheel/third button. Allowing the OS to apply standard MS drivers for
>> a wheel mouse instead of using  the Logitech ones solved it for me
>> too.
>>
>> M
>
>None of the keys except ESC and the console key work either.
>I suppose it could be the drivers, but AFAIK I'm still using the ones that 
>come with XP.
>
>Oh, it's an MS Optical Wheelmouse BTW.
>
>-- 

Sounds like a connection problem to me.

What does your lagometer look like? Are you using a personal firewall?

chicken <no@no.net> typed as if devouring a plate of spoo:
>
> Sounds like a connection problem to me.
>
> What does your lagometer look like? Are you using a personal firewall?

It's in offline games - an extra piece to add to the puzzle, it happens when 
I start recording a demo and doing an in_restart doesn't help (nor does 
dying or going to spectator mode).
The screenshot button works too, though.

 On the off-chance that it is some Net connection oddity, I'm using the 
latest ZoneAlarm and Q3's got permissions; PunkBuster's up to date; and it's 
on an ADSL connection, 768K down, 300K up.

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