🚀 go-pugleaf

Just ignore this buttsteak. He's clueless, couldn't pooor piss out of a
boot with the instructions written on the heel, and I suspect he's an
experiment 
in Artificial Stupidity.

Bonk

"Håvard K. Moen" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:20:46 -0400, "Frank_Rizzo"
> <riz...@FARTalltel.net.net> wrote:
> 
> > Håvard K. Moen <hkm...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:3785c029.8784363@news.online.no...
> >
> > > No, but maybe this isn't about freedom. Perhaps you are paranoid. I
> > > wouldn't know, though, but you sound a bit paranoid when you talk
> > > about this.
> >
> > Not paranoia. Free choice. And, YES, this is about freedom! Look, I have a
> > right under my constitution to bear arms, we have had this right since the
> > begining of this country. If my government takes this right away because
> > some whinny liberal doesn't want me to own a gun, then I have lost my
> > freedom to purchase a gun. If they don't want to own a gun, fine, but don't
> > tell me what I can/can't own under my constitutional rights. I won't tell
> > them what to do.
> 
> What do you need that gun for? Protection. Well, in Norway, we use
> guns for hunting only, and that's all we need them for.
> 
> The best thing would be if you didn't need the gun to protect yourself
> at all, right? In a perfect world, people don't need guns to protect
> themselves. I am correct, right?
> 
> > > Oh, and we (Norway) don't ban guns, but people who don't need guns
> > > won't be allowed to buy them. If you are a hunter and do not have a
> > > criminal record, yeah, you will get a gun, but you will need proper
> > > training too.
> >
> > Oh yeah huh? Whom decides who "needs" a gun? You can't have a criminal
> > record and buy a gun here either. I agree, people should have proper
> > training.
> 
> They have to apply for one. They need a reason to own the gun
> (hunting).
> 
> > It's not paranoia, our government is well known for slowly taking our rights
> > away. First it's special laws on guns, then it's a little more, then a total
> > ban. Prime example: Our seatbelt laws: First, you didn't have to wear one,
> > then you had to wear one in a car, but you couldn't be pulled over for not
> > wearing one, you had to be stopped for another offence first. (You still
> > didn't have to wear them in a pickup truck). Then, they passed another law
> > that they could pull you over for not wearing one be it in a car, or pickup.
> > That was their original intention. But it took years to accomplish... Slowly
> > taking our rights away. Seatbelts save lives, and I have always worn one
> > anyway, but it's the point. Do you think they care if you die from not
> > wearing a seatbelt? Nope... they care only about the almighty dollar, and
> > control. They accomplished both with the seatbelt law.
> 
> I don't think just any guy should be able to get a gun. To own a gun,
> you have to have a purpose for it, in my opinion. That way, you could
> get a gun if your were a hunter, for example, but not if you wanted to
> "protect yourself".