🚀 go-pugleaf

Shryqe <shr...@voyager.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 07:01:24 GMT, "Capa422"
> <capa42...@yahoo.com> did say:
>
> >Apples and oranges here.  There are benefits to having knives.  They are
a
> >tool which we need in our daily lives.  Unless you hunt, you don't need a
> >gun.
>
> Only if you don't value freedom from tyranny.
>

And I do value freedom, but can we really be free when everyone is walking
around with guns?

Whatsovever therefore is consequent to a time of war, where every man is
enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live
without other security, than what their own strength, and their own
invention shall furnish them withal.  In such condition, there is no place
for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no
culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be
imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and
removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the
earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is
worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of
man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan.