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with the new chips comming out it isn't a good idea to buy an older piece
of equipment without being a heavy gamer.  but if you want a good card with
a good chip in it (the best you can get for 100 bucks) then go ahead and
buy the monster.  or for some more money by a hercules 128/3d with the 3dfx
chip in dere.  that is good too but it is a complete replacement.



Fred Budreau <fbudreau@cybermania.ent> wrote in article
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> Being the cheap bastard I am, I am very slow in deciding whether I should
> buy an expensive item. The Monster 3D is being considered by me, and I
> would like to ask if people can give their cheer/jeer or any type of
> review, and upcoming uses of the 3dfx chip. I would also appeciate if
> someone could send a genuine zipped .tga file so I can compare it to my
> .pcx screenshots (gotta see it to believe it).
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> Zodiac
> 
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ask if people can give their cheer/jeer or any type of<br>&gt; review, =
and upcoming uses of the 3dfx chip. I would also appeciate if<br>&gt; =
someone could send a genuine zipped .tga file so I can compare it to =
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> It's absolutely fucken incredible.  You'll love it, I promise.
> You just simply will not believe it.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wolfman~~~


Exactly!!  

You will NOT be disappointed.  Buy an M3D!  Best $$$ you'll ever spend.

-FaNaTiC-

In article <33FCFC...@teleport.com>, -FaNaTiC- <lmo...@teleport.com> wrote:
> 
> Exactly!!  
> 
> You will NOT be disappointed.  Buy an M3D!  Best $$$ you'll ever spend.
> 
> -FaNaTiC-

I'm wondering if the other graphic cards out there that support the same
features as the Monster 3D (transparencies, fog, anti-alias, etc.) are
compatible with 3Dfx games like GLQuake, or if those programs don't
recognize the graphic card's capabilities. Any ideas?

>In article <01bca42b$c6038640$980087d0@fbudreau>, fbudreau@cybermania.ent 
>prattles...
>>
>>Being the cheap bastard I am, I am very slow in deciding whether I should
>>buy an expensive item. The Monster 3D is being considered by me, and I
>>would like to ask if people can give their cheer/jeer or any type of
>>review, and upcoming uses of the 3dfx chip. I would also appeciate if
>>someone could send a genuine zipped .tga file so I can compare it to my
>>.pcx screenshots (gotta see it to believe it).
>>
>>Thanks for the help,
>>Zodiac

I bought a Monster 3D about four or five weeks ago.  I really wanted
to like it BUT it had the annoying habit of degrading the display.  I
would get these large vertical waves of distortion from the left side
to around the middle of the screen.  This was only visible when
running software that used the 3d chip.  I tried hooking the monitor
straight to the 3d card, changing the bus slot, and moving other cards
but nothing helped.  Guess I got a defective one or something.
Anyway, I took it back.  I might try again with an Orchid card.
GLQuake bothered me anyway.  It seemed slower and the rocketry
lighting was cool but distracting  Ya, that's it.  I didn't like any
of that 3d stuff  ;) 

J.C. Stofer
sto...@REMOVETHIS.mindspring.com

In article <34008D...@teleport.com>, lmo...@teleport.com says...
>
>John Savage wrote:
>> 
>> In article <33FCFC...@teleport.com>, -FaNaTiC- 
<lmo...@teleport.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Exactly!!
>> >
>> > You will NOT be disappointed.  Buy an M3D!  Best $$$ you'll ever 
spend.
>> >
>> > -FaNaTiC-
>> 
>> I'm wondering if the other graphic cards out there that support the 
same
>> features as the Monster 3D (transparencies, fog, anti-alias, etc.) 
are
>> compatible with 3Dfx games like GLQuake, or if those programs don't
>> recognize the graphic card's capabilities. Any ideas?
>
>
>The only other cards that are compatible w/ glquake are the Hercules
>Stingray 128/3D, Deltron Technology's RealVision Flash3D and the 
Orchid
>Righteous 3d.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). Go to
>http://www.3dfx.com/voodoo/sale/retail.html to get info on these
>products.  The card MUST be 3dfx (voodoo chipset) to support 3dfx
>games.  Other cards simply are not compatible w/ 3dfx. For example, 
you
>can't go out and buy a Virge based 3d card and run GLquake.  It 
simple
>won't work. 
>
>I own a pentium 100 w/ a mere 24 megs of ram.  I simply cannot 
believe
>what adding this voodoo based card has done to this machine. Razor 
sharp
>graphics at HIGHER framerates than the original quake.  Tombraider 
and
>Descent2 are phenomenal also. 
>
>Looks as if the 3dfx is fast becoming the standard, so you really 
can't
>go wrong w/ purchasing one of the above cards.  I'd simply go w/ the 
M3D
>as it has a solid customer base and is proven to perform extremely 
well.
>Plus Quake2, Unreal, Diakantana (sp.), HexenII, and more than likely
>DukeNukem Forever will all support the 3dfx cards.
>
>-FaNaTiC-
To all those people who do not yet own one, I'm selling 'em for $170 
apiece.

mik...@execpc.com

"Amos" <am...@incognito.net> wrote:

> -FaNaTiC- wrote in article <34008D...@teleport.com>...
>
><snip>
>
>>The only other cards that are compatible w/ glquake are the Hercules
>>Stingray 128/3D, Deltron Technology's RealVision Flash3D and the Orchid
>>Righteous 3d.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). Go to
>>http://www.3dfx.com/voodoo/sale/retail.html to get info on these
>>products.  The card MUST be 3dfx (voodoo chipset) to support 3dfx
>>games.  Other cards simply are not compatible w/ 3dfx. For example, you
>>can't go out and buy a Virge based 3d card and run GLquake.  It simple
>>won't work.
>
>Huh? Ummm...OpenGL is NOT limited to 3dfx-based cards. The games you speak
>of are OpenGL-based games NOT 3dfx-based games, I thought. If I'm wrong,
>then the names should be changed to 3dfxQuake or 3dfxHexenII. Any card that
>supports OpenGL in hardware or software ( albeit, slower) should be able to
>run GLQuake or GLHexenII.
>
Ahh, but it isn't only the 3dfx that can handle it. So long as your
cardx has an openGL drivier then you can run it. But 3dfx is the main
one, so...

and all the others are slower..

--
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Mail for details of tickets and times of performance
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OK.  Yes, GLQuake is opengl.  And yes, 3Dfx is the best chipset (at the
moment) for running GLQuake.  But, there are other ports of Quake for other
cards, like VQuake for Verite based cards.  But still, it does not mean
that it is better.  In a few months, there will be a whole new slew of
cards out that can run GLQuake, but more than likely they are all based on
the 3Dfx chipset.  In fact, there are new cards in the works based on the
on the 3Dfx chipset that have more texture memory, 2 megs more to be exact,
resulting in...  Let me here it...  MORE POWER!!!!  Not only is there gonna
be more memory, but from what I understand, the mem chips will be faster.  

Jon Platt <sad...@cisdk67.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<3407f00...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> "Amos" <am...@incognito.net> wrote:
> 
> > -FaNaTiC- wrote in article <34008D...@teleport.com>...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>The only other cards that are compatible w/ glquake are the Hercules
> >>Stingray 128/3D, Deltron Technology's RealVision Flash3D and the Orchid
> >>Righteous 3d.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong). Go to
> >>http://www.3dfx.com/voodoo/sale/retail.html to get info on these
> >>products.  The card MUST be 3dfx (voodoo chipset) to support 3dfx
> >>games.  Other cards simply are not compatible w/ 3dfx. For example, you
> >>can't go out and buy a Virge based 3d card and run GLquake.  It simple
> >>won't work.
> >
> >Huh? Ummm...OpenGL is NOT limited to 3dfx-based cards. The games you
speak
> >of are OpenGL-based games NOT 3dfx-based games, I thought. If I'm wrong,
> >then the names should be changed to 3dfxQuake or 3dfxHexenII. Any card
that
> >supports OpenGL in hardware or software ( albeit, slower) should be able
to
> >run GLQuake or GLHexenII.
> >
> Ahh, but it isn't only the 3dfx that can handle it. So long as your
> cardx has an openGL drivier then you can run it. But 3dfx is the main
> one, so...
> 
> and all the others are slower..
> 
> --
> The Mink War performed in the Ustinov Studio, Bath from the 14th - 17th
October
> Mail for details of tickets and times of performance
> (despite the name it has nothing to do with animal rights :)
>