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Re: Quake 2 and modem support comments.

#85
From: PhiberOptik
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 00:00
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Its not gonna happe guys. There is just too much data to push from one end
to another. what we are running into here is a lack of data transferr
technology...mainly analog mode speeds. there are just too many polygons to
be able to quickly re-represent the on both machines without faster
hardware. 

the biggest reason Doom2, Decent, Duke3D, work so well is the graphical
code is so much simpler. there is just less to move from one side to the
other. Besides, your comparing it to technology that is at least 3 to 4
years old. At least be fair. Warcraft isnt even the same type of game and
cant possibly be compare to a 3D fist person shooter such as Quake. 

If any of you guys are programmers....download the code for quake attatched
to this document. Then find source for an older 3D game such as those
mentioned above. youll find that they are drastically different and the
quake source is quite a bit more advanced. I think id did the best they
could with what they had considering the already massive delays with
getting Quake on the shelves.

Just my opinion...
Quake Rocks!!,
thanks JohnC :-)

Lorne Torres <pe...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<01bc7b99$5af74ae0$5cd2b4cf@qb-pers>...
> I've read numerous messages lately on here, and none that I've read have
> had any concerns with modem issues for the second Quake game. Playing
Quake
> on the net is a fun experience, but what about those one on one games?
That
> is where the real skill is. I'd like to see id fix the modem code so that
> both players experience the same or NO lag at all... why can Duke3d,
> Descent 2, Warcraft 2 and a host of other games play with no noticeable
lag
> and Quake cannot?
> 
> If the game is undergoing some radical changes to it's architecture, that
> should be one of it's primary concerns. If it weren't for the modem play
in
> Doom2 for example, I dont think there would be as big a following or
desire
> for Quake today. That's what started it all. 
> 
> We know the guys at id are rich, driving extremely nice cars and such..
and
> I'm sure it's not a primary concern from what I can tell so far from the
> interviews of the people in direct contact with the game that modem play
is
> a priority... but we all dont have T1's in our homes to get smooth games
on
> the net of course if we were all rich we'd have them...... there are many
> out there that will only play on LAN's because of the amount of lag...now
I
> dont want to get into why the internet is laggy for games and such, but I
> would just like id software to consider adding good modem code to the
game
> for people out there that want a good smooth one on one game.
> 
> -=Persecutor=-
> 
> 
> 
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From: "PhiberOptik" <nob...@nowhere.com>
Subject: Re: Quake 2 and modem support comments.
Date: 1997/06/23
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