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In article <01bc7b99$5af74ae0$5cd2b4cf@qb-pers>, "Lorne Torres" <pe...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I've read numerous messages lately on here, and none that I've read have
>had any concerns with modem issues for the second Quake game. Playing Quake
>on the net is a fun experience, but what about those one on one games? That
>is where the real skill is. I'd like to see id fix the modem code so that
>both players experience the same or NO lag at all... why can Duke3d,
>Descent 2, Warcraft 2 and a host of other games play with no noticeable lag
>and Quake cannot?

Why should one player suffer because the other player's connection is bad?  
This is not socialism.

>If the game is undergoing some radical changes to it's architecture, that
>should be one of it's primary concerns. If it weren't for the modem play in
>Doom2 for example, I dont think there would be as big a following or desire
>for Quake today. That's what started it all. 

I don't know about you, but I got into Doom because of network play.  Playing 
over the modem was slow and you couldn't yell at the guy while you were 
playing.

>We know the guys at id are rich, driving extremely nice cars and such.. and
>I'm sure it's not a primary concern from what I can tell so far from the
>interviews of the people in direct contact with the game that modem play is
>a priority... but we all dont have T1's in our homes to get smooth games on
>the net of course if we were all rich we'd have them...... there are many
>out there that will only play on LAN's because of the amount of lag...now I
>dont want to get into why the internet is laggy for games and such, but I
>would just like id software to consider adding good modem code to the game
>for people out there that want a good smooth one on one game.

Better connections will come with cheaper ISDN and cable modems and all of 
that hype.  Why should they kill themselves programming for the least common 
denomenator when they can make the game so much better.  I am not rich and I 
have an ISDN line.  My gameplay is great.  It helps that I have a decent ISP 
as well.  I would never go back to playing with a modem because there are many 
better options now.