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On 3 May 2005 06:53:46 -0700, "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
>deice.exe.

Have you tried:
 - DosBox?
 - A bootable disk from http://www.bootdisk.com/

>Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?

That sounds like you have a very old version of Quake (e.g. 1.01).  Once
you manage to get it installed, burn the files to a CD or other permanent
media, along with the 1.06 patch.  (Ignore the 1.08 patch unless you have
the expansion.)
 

 

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>
> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
> deice.exe.
>
> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?

http://equake.quakeworld.nu/
http://www.fuhquake.net/

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>
> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
> deice.exe.

Why do you want to install Quake? It is DOS-based.

> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?

And why not? I am using WinQuake 1.09 on XP Professional, Service Pack 2.
I am playing both Quake and the 2 expansion packs : Scourge of Armagon and 
Dissolution of Eternity at 1280x1024 resolution, no problem.
Sound, Keyboard, Mice, CD Music by NIN works likes a dream.

Your best bet: Get WinQuake going.
If you are having problems, mention them here.
You stand more chance of running this under Windows XP satisfactorily than 
ever getting the original Quake-for-DOS working 100% under XP.

Cheers

Stephen Howe

Stephen Howe wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file
or
> > deice.exe.
>
> Why do you want to install Quake? It is DOS-based.
>
> > Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>
> And why not? I am using WinQuake 1.09 on XP Professional, Service
Pack 2.
> I am playing both Quake and the 2 expansion packs : Scourge of
Armagon and
> Dissolution of Eternity at 1280x1024 resolution, no problem.
> Sound, Keyboard, Mice, CD Music by NIN works likes a dream.
>
> Your best bet: Get WinQuake going.
> If you are having problems, mention them here.
> You stand more chance of running this under Windows XP satisfactorily
than
> ever getting the original Quake-for-DOS working 100% under XP.

And how do I install the data files?

~Iain

Stephen Howe wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file
or
> > deice.exe.
>
> Why do you want to install Quake? It is DOS-based.
>
> > Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>
> And why not? I am using WinQuake 1.09 on XP Professional, Service
Pack 2.
> I am playing both Quake and the 2 expansion packs : Scourge of
Armagon and
> Dissolution of Eternity at 1280x1024 resolution, no problem.
> Sound, Keyboard, Mice, CD Music by NIN works likes a dream.
>
> Your best bet: Get WinQuake going.
> If you are having problems, mention them here.
> You stand more chance of running this under Windows XP satisfactorily
than
> ever getting the original Quake-for-DOS working 100% under XP.
>

INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do with
installation).

~Iain

On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:

> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do with
> installation).

Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made you that
way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.

-- 
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
> deice.exe.
>
> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>
> ~Iain

Ok lain, that's a bad start.   You can run deice in a dos box.  That 
will get things unpacked.  I run XP Pro SP2 and the vanilla installer of 
Quake will NOT run for me either.  I found it very convenient to keep my 
complete Quake folders as installed backed up to a CD (from a Win98SE 
install of the game) and just copy the folders to my C:\Games\  folder. 
It's a DOS game and not registered.  I do run WinQuake 1.0 as it does 
run Quake perfectly in XP Pro SP2 and the plain old quake and Quakeworld 
just crash.  You do have to run the WinQuake installer after getting all 
the Quake files where they go though, as it registers itself.
McG. 

"Matthew Vaughan" <matt-no-spam-109@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:9leee.562$T3.3157@typhoon.sonic.net
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
>> deice.exe.
>>
>> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>
> http://equake.quakeworld.nu/
> http://www.fuhquake.net/

WinQuake and GLQuake run basically 'vanilla' Quake.  eQuake/FUH Quake 
run a heavily modded engine.  Enough so that I won't spend the time to 
learn a whole new set of cvars and commands and rules just to try to set 
it up to play with my own keys and setups.  SOme are considered cheats 
by FUH quake and are not allowed at all.  Nor the hook.
McG. 

"Stephen Howe" <sjhoweATdialDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message
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> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
>> deice.exe.
>
> Why do you want to install Quake? It is DOS-based.
>
>> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>
> And why not? I am using WinQuake 1.09 on XP Professional, Service
> Pack 2. I am playing both Quake and the 2 expansion packs : Scourge
> of Armagon and Dissolution of Eternity at 1280x1024 resolution, no
> problem. Sound, Keyboard, Mice, CD Music by NIN works likes a dream.
>
> Your best bet: Get WinQuake going.
> If you are having problems, mention them here.
> You stand more chance of running this under Windows XP satisfactorily
> than ever getting the original Quake-for-DOS working 100% under XP.
>
> Cheers
>
> Stephen Howe

I think he means that the Quake setup.exe or install.exe won't work in 
his XP.  Once he gets it ON the hd, then he'll find that Quake.exe and 
qw.exe/qwgl.exe won't work either.  Then, he'll appreciate the less than 
400K Winquake :)
McG. 

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Stephen Howe wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115128426.128359.266040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> How do I INSTALL Quake in Windows XP? It won't run the batch file or
>>> deice.exe.
>>
>> Why do you want to install Quake? It is DOS-based.
>>
>>> Nobody dare mention Winquake or Glquake again -- How do I INSTALL?
>>
>> And why not? I am using WinQuake 1.09 on XP Professional, Service
>> Pack 2. I am playing both Quake and the 2 expansion packs : Scourge
>> of Armagon and Dissolution of Eternity at 1280x1024 resolution, no
>> problem.
>> Sound, Keyboard, Mice, CD Music by NIN works likes a dream.
>>
>> Your best bet: Get WinQuake going.
>> If you are having problems, mention them here.
>> You stand more chance of running this under Windows XP
>> satisfactorily than ever getting the original Quake-for-DOS working
>> 100% under XP.
>>
>
> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do
> with installation).
>
> ~Iain

see if you can run the deice unpacker from the command prompt (dosbox). 
If you can, then you can set it up manually.   I had saved an ancient 
W98SE installation of it to CD and just copy my game folders over with 
all files, then sort out what's there and install WinQuake fresh (it 
puts entries in the registry, Quake is DOS and doesn't).  then, it runs. 
:)
McG. 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>
>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
>> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do
>> with installation).
>
> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made you
> that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.

He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the 
gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped, not 
lazy.
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> > On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >
> >> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
> >> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do
> >> with installation).
> >
> > Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made you
> > that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
>
> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped, not
> lazy.

I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but this
question has been asked many many times by people and not one single
person ever reads one of the questions properly and so everyone harps
on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting "INSTALL" in capitals
in the original post would be enough, but someone still said "Use
WinQuake".

Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>
>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
>>>> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to do
>>>> with installation).
>>>
>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made you
>>> that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
>>
>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
>> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped, not
>> lazy.
>
> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but this
> question has been asked many many times by people and not one single
> person ever reads one of the questions properly and so everyone harps
> on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting "INSTALL" in capitals
> in the original post would be enough, but someone still said "Use
> WinQuake".
>
> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>
> ~Iain

You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
doesn't
> >>>> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to
do
> >>>> with installation).
> >>>
> >>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made
you
> >>> that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
> >>
> >> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
> >> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped,
not
> >> lazy.
> >
> > I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but
this
> > question has been asked many many times by people and not one
single
> > person ever reads one of the questions properly and so everyone
harps
> > on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting "INSTALL" in
capitals
> > in the original post would be enough, but someone still said "Use
> > WinQuake".
> >
> > Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >
> > ~Iain
>
> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> McG.

Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP) file
was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It doesn't
>>>>>> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing to
>>>>>> do with installation).
>>>>>
>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made
>>>>> you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
>>>>
>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
>>>> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped, not
>>>> lazy.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but
>>> this question has been asked many many times by people and not one
>>> single person ever reads one of the questions properly and so
>>> everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting
>>> "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be enough, but
>>> someone still said "Use WinQuake".
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>
>>> ~Iain
>>
>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>> McG.
>
> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP) file
> was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
>
> ~Iain

Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2 installed 
its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere it occurred. 
To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my updated 
vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my Quake folder. 
That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my little monster 
buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player at 
all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> >>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
doesn't
> >>>>>> matter what I do -- someone always mentions WinQuake(nothing
to
> >>>>>> do with installation).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made
> >>>>> you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
> >>>>
> >>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
> >>>> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped,
not
> >>>> lazy.
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but
> >>> this question has been asked many many times by people and not
one
> >>> single person ever reads one of the questions properly and so
> >>> everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting
> >>> "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be enough, but
> >>> someone still said "Use WinQuake".
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >>>
> >>> ~Iain
> >>
> >> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> >> McG.
> >
> > Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> > autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
file
> > was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
> >
> > ~Iain
>
> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
installed
> its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere it occurred.

> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
updated
> vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my Quake folder.
> That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my little monster

> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player at
> all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?

I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried that?

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding made
>>>>>>> you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get the
>>>>>> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person stumped,
>>>>>> not lazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it, but
>>>>> this question has been asked many many times by people and not one
>>>>> single person ever reads one of the questions properly and so
>>>>> everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting
>>>>> "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be enough, but
>>>>> someone still said "Use WinQuake".
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>
>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
>>>
>>> ~Iain
>>
>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere
>> it occurred.
>
>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my Quake
>> folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my
>> little monster
>
>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player at
>> all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>
> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried that?
>
> ~Iain

Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)

Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in 640x480-16 
bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D accelerator that let me 
play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New Game, 
dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!* and 
showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the grief I 
used to go through to just play the game online.   Broadband is as big a 
help as a decent rig to play it on.
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> >>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
> >>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
> >>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
made
> >>>>>>> you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
the
> >>>>>> gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
stumped,
> >>>>>> not lazy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
but
> >>>>> this question has been asked many many times by people and not
one
> >>>>> single person ever reads one of the questions properly and so
> >>>>> everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought putting
> >>>>> "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be enough, but
> >>>>> someone still said "Use WinQuake".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>
> >>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> >>>> McG.
> >>>
> >>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> >>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
> >>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
> >>>
> >>> ~Iain
> >>
> >> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
> >> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere
> >> it occurred.
> >
> >> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
> >> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
Quake
> >> folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my
> >> little monster
> >
> >> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player
at
> >> all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
> >
> > I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried that?
> >
> > ~Iain
>
> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)


It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots -- best
add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling hook,
head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects. You can
also play online using it.


> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in 640x480-16
> bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D accelerator that let
me
> play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New Game,

> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!* and

> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the grief
I
> used to go through to just play the game online.   Broadband is as
big a
> help as a decent rig to play it on.
> McG.

32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the look
because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.

I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
>>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
>>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
>>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
>>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people and
>>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions properly
>>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought
>>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
>>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
>>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>
>>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere
>>>> it occurred.
>>>
>>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my Quake
>>>> folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my
>>>> little monster
>>>
>>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player
>>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>>>
>>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried that?
>>>
>>> ~Iain
>>
>> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
>
>
> It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
> commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots -- best
> add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling hook,
> head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects. You can
> also play online using it.
>
>
>> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in 640x480-16
>> bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D accelerator that
>> let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in 800x600-32 bits at around 46
>> fps.
>> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New Game,
>
>> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!* and
>
>> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
>> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.   Broadband
>> is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
>> McG.
>
> 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
> look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.

Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the FPS is 
in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES sites. 
Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run 
through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note there aren't 
many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1 anything.   GS seems to 
be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.

>
> I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
>
> ~Iain

In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of 
references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working download for 
it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file, but no file 
turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the early days, but sure 
thought an active site would have it.
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
> >>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
> >>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
> >>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
dweeb.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
> >>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
> >>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
> >>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people
and
> >>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions
properly
> >>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought
> >>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
> >>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> >>>>>> McG.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> >>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in
XP)
> >>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the
end.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>
> >>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
> >>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
everywhere
> >>>> it occurred.
> >>>
> >>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
> >>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
Quake
> >>>> folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my
> >>>> little monster
> >>>
> >>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single
player
> >>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
> >>>
> >>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
that?
> >>>
> >>> ~Iain
> >>
> >> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
> >
> >
> > It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
> > commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots --
best
> > add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling
hook,
> > head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects. You
can
> > also play online using it.
> >
> >
> >> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
640x480-16
> >> bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D accelerator that
> >> let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in 800x600-32 bits at around
46
> >> fps.
> >> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
Game,
> >
> >> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!*
and
> >
> >> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
> >> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.
Broadband
> >> is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
> >> McG.
> >
> > 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
> > look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>
> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the FPS
is
> in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES sites.
> Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run
> through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note there aren't
> many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1 anything.   GS seems
to
> be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.
>
> >
> > I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
> >
> > ~Iain
>
> In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of
> references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working download
for
> it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file, but no
file
> turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the early days, but
sure
> thought an active site would have it.
> McG.


Strange. The website seems to have disappeared. Try a Kazaa search or
the likes. If not, I have a friend with it on CD(I imagine 20 mb or
something).

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115664207.988647.26240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
>>>>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
>>>>>>>>>>> dweeb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
>>>>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
>>>>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
>>>>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people and
>>>>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions properly
>>>>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought
>>>>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
>>>>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>>>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
>>>>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the
>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>>>>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
>>>>>> everywhere it occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>>>>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
>>>>>> Quake folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been
>>>>>> missing my little monster
>>>>>
>>>>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player
>>>>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
>>> commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots --
>>> best add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling
>>> hook, head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects.
>>> You can also play online using it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
>>>> 640x480-16 bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D
>>>> accelerator that let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in
>>>> 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
>>>> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
>>>> Game,
>>>
>>>> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!*
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
>>>> grief I used to go through to just play the game online. Broadband
>>>> is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
>>> look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>>
>> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the FPS
>> is in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES sites.
>> Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run
>> through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note there aren't
>> many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1 anything.   GS
>> seems to be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.
>>
>>>
>>> I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
>>>
>>> ~Iain
>>
>> In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of
>> references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working download
>> for it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file, but
>> no file turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the early
>> days, but sure thought an active site would have it.
>> McG.
>
>
> Strange. The website seems to have disappeared. Try a Kazaa search or
> the likes. If not, I have a friend with it on CD(I imagine 20 mb or
> something).
>
> ~Iain

Sorry, I don't do kazaa or 'mass p2p' items.   I'll keep looking, 
something should turn up :)  Thanks for the info.
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115664207.988647.26240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
> >>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install.
It
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of
spoon-feeding
> >>>>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
> >>>>>>>>>>> dweeb.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can
get
> >>>>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
> >>>>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about
it,
> >>>>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people
and
> >>>>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions
properly
> >>>>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I
thought
> >>>>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
> >>>>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> >>>>>>>> McG.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> >>>>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in
XP)
> >>>>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the
> >>>>>>> end.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
> >>>>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
> >>>>>> everywhere it occurred.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took
my
> >>>>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
> >>>>>> Quake folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been
> >>>>>> missing my little monster
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single
player
> >>>>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
> >>>>> that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500
impulse
> >>> commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots --
> >>> best add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a
grappling
> >>> hook, head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing
effects.
> >>> You can also play online using it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
> >>>> 640x480-16 bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D
> >>>> accelerator that let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in
> >>>> 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
> >>>> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
> >>>> Game,
> >>>
> >>>> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went
*WHIZ!*
> >>>> and
> >>>
> >>>> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
> >>>> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.
Broadband
> >>>> is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
> >>>> McG.
> >>>
> >>> 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve
the
> >>> look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
> >>
> >> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the
FPS
> >> is in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES
sites.
> >> Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run
> >> through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note there
aren't
> >> many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1 anything.   GS
> >> seems to be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
> >>>
> >>> ~Iain
> >>
> >> In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of
> >> references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working
download
> >> for it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file,
but
> >> no file turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the early
> >> days, but sure thought an active site would have it.
> >> McG.
> >
> >
> > Strange. The website seems to have disappeared. Try a Kazaa search
or
> > the likes. If not, I have a friend with it on CD(I imagine 20 mb or
> > something).
> >
> > ~Iain
>
> Sorry, I don't do kazaa or 'mass p2p' items.   I'll keep looking,
> something should turn up :)  Thanks for the info.
> McG.

There is a "lite", adware-free version, and I think KQP is a bit to
obscure to be a chosen host for a virus, but as ye wish.

If you truly can't fnd it, I can get it.

It's worthwhile because deathmatch with this thing is better than
deathmatch in any other game to date.

~Iain

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115715896.238494.154480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115664207.988647.26240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dweeb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can
>>>>>>>>>>>> get the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the
>>>>>>>>>>>> person stumped, not lazy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about
>>>>>>>>>>> it, but this question has been asked many many times by
>>>>>>>>>>> people and not one single person ever reads one of the
>>>>>>>>>>> questions properly and so everyone harps on about WinQuake
>>>>>>>>>>> and such -- I thought putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the
>>>>>>>>>>> original post would be enough, but someone still said "Use
>>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>>>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>>>>>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in
>>>>>>>>> XP) file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in
>>>>>>>>> the end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>>>>>>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
>>>>>>>> everywhere it occurred.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>>>>>>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
>>>>>>>> Quake folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been
>>>>>>>> missing my little monster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single
>>>>>>>> player at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500
>>>>> impulse commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy
>>>>> bots -- best add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a
>>>>> grappling hook, head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer
>>>>> gibbing effects. You can also play online using it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
>>>>>> 640x480-16 bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D
>>>>>> accelerator that let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in
>>>>>> 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
>>>>>> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
>>>>>> Game,
>>>>>
>>>>>> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!*
>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
>>>>>> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.
>>>>>> Broadband is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>> 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
>>>>> look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the
>>>> FPS is in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES
>>>> sites. Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.
>>>> Will run through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note
>>>> there aren't many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1
>>>> anything.   GS seems to be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>
>>>> In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of
>>>> references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working download
>>>> for it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file,
>>>> but no file turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the
>>>> early days, but sure thought an active site would have it.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>> Strange. The website seems to have disappeared. Try a Kazaa search
>>> or the likes. If not, I have a friend with it on CD(I imagine 20 mb
>>> or something).
>>>
>>> ~Iain
>>
>> Sorry, I don't do kazaa or 'mass p2p' items.   I'll keep looking,
>> something should turn up :)  Thanks for the info.
>> McG.
>
> There is a "lite", adware-free version, and I think KQP is a bit to
> obscure to be a chosen host for a virus, but as ye wish.
>
> If you truly can't fnd it, I can get it.
>
> It's worthwhile because deathmatch with this thing is better than
> deathmatch in any other game to date.
>
> ~Iain

Aw don't sweat it, it'll turn up somewhere.  I haven't even looked on my 
Quake downloads CD's yet.
Malware isn't my reason for disliking mass p2p, it's my IP and system 
that become known to that hub.  I just don't like that.
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115715896.238494.154480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> 
>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>>>"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1115664207.988647.26240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dweeb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>get the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>person stumped, not lazy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about
>>>>>>>>>>>>it, but this question has been asked many many times by
>>>>>>>>>>>>people and not one single person ever reads one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>questions properly and so everyone harps on about WinQuake
>>>>>>>>>>>>and such -- I thought putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>original post would be enough, but someone still said "Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>WinQuake".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>~Iain
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>McG.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>>>>>>>>>autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in
>>>>>>>>>>XP) file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in
>>>>>>>>>>the end.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>~Iain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>>>>>>>>>installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
>>>>>>>>>everywhere it occurred.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>>>>>>>>>updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
>>>>>>>>>Quake folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been
>>>>>>>>>missing my little monster
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single
>>>>>>>>>player at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
>>>>>>>>that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>~Iain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500
>>>>>>impulse commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy
>>>>>>bots -- best add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a
>>>>>>grappling hook, head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer
>>>>>>gibbing effects. You can also play online using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
>>>>>>>640x480-16 bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D
>>>>>>>accelerator that let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in
>>>>>>>800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
>>>>>>>I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
>>>>>>>Game,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!*
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
>>>>>>>grief I used to go through to just play the game online.
>>>>>>>Broadband is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
>>>>>>>McG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
>>>>>>look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>>>>>
>>>>>Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the
>>>>>FPS is in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES
>>>>>sites. Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.
>>>>>Will run through the SP game again for old times sake :)  I note
>>>>>there aren't many servers showing in GameSpy now, for Quake 1
>>>>>anything.   GS seems to be dominated by Counter Strike junkies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I got 2000 fps on 16-bit on a 2001 NVidia card ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>~Iain
>>>>>
>>>>>In looking through some 20 pages of google hits, I found tons of
>>>>>references to that "Killer Quake Pack" but not one working download
>>>>>for it.  Even FilePlanet/QuakePlanet had references to the file,
>>>>>but no file turned up.  Any ideas?  I know it's a pack from the
>>>>>early days, but sure thought an active site would have it.
>>>>>McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Strange. The website seems to have disappeared. Try a Kazaa search
>>>>or the likes. If not, I have a friend with it on CD(I imagine 20 mb
>>>>or something).
>>>>
>>>>~Iain
>>>
>>>Sorry, I don't do kazaa or 'mass p2p' items.   I'll keep looking,
>>>something should turn up :)  Thanks for the info.
>>>McG.
>>
>>There is a "lite", adware-free version, and I think KQP is a bit to
>>obscure to be a chosen host for a virus, but as ye wish.
>>
>>If you truly can't fnd it, I can get it.
>>
>>It's worthwhile because deathmatch with this thing is better than
>>deathmatch in any other game to date.
>>
>>~Iain
> 
> 
> Aw don't sweat it, it'll turn up somewhere.  I haven't even looked on my 
> Quake downloads CD's yet.
> Malware isn't my reason for disliking mass p2p, it's my IP and system 
> that become known to that hub.  I just don't like that.
> McG. 
> 
> 
RETROQUAKE has the Killer Quake Patch now.
http://www.planetquake.com/retroquake/

McGrandpa wrote:
> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
> > McGrandpa wrote:
> >> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> >>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
> >>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
> >>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
> >>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy dweeb.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
> >>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
> >>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
> >>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people and
> >>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions properly
> >>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought
> >>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
> >>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
> >>>>>> McG.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
> >>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
> >>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the end.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Iain
> >>>>
> >>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
> >>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently everywhere
> >>>> it occurred.
> >>>
> >>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
> >>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my Quake
> >>>> folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been missing my
> >>>> little monster
> >>>
> >>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player
> >>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
> >>>
> >>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried that?
> >>>
> >>> ~Iain
> >>
> >> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
> >
> >
> > It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
> > commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots -- best
> > add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling hook,
> > head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects. You can
> > also play online using it.
> >
> >
> >> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in 640x480-16
> >> bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D accelerator that
> >> let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in 800x600-32 bits at around 46
> >> fps.
> >> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New Game,
> >
> >> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!* and
> >
> >> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
> >> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.   Broadband
> >> is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
> >> McG.
> >
> > 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
> > look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>
> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the FPS is
> in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES sites.
> Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run
> through the SP game again for old times sake :)

I think Quake 1 Single Player deserves to be re-made. Artistically it
was marvellous. I first played it in 1997 with the gamma down low, and
swimming in the Grisly Grotto with a giant, floating, demonic sort of
insect grub making a rasping sound whilst spitting yellow, buoyant goo
at you is the ultimate nightmarish form of escape, as is the sound of a
chainsaw being dragged around by something big, and the wheeze of a
zombie around the next corner.

~Iain

"DorKwolf"

>>
>> Aw don't sweat it, it'll turn up somewhere.  I haven't even looked
>> on my Quake downloads CD's yet.
>> Malware isn't my reason for disliking mass p2p, it's my IP and system
>> that become known to that hub.  I just don't like that.
>> McG.
>>
>>
> RETROQUAKE has the Killer Quake Patch now.
> http://www.planetquake.com/retroquake/

Got it!
Thanks
McG. 

"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117203806.064195.8200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115656462.520311.229570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1115595822.126266.213480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1115554707.615894.177470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1115472887.429452.183440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:pan.2005.05.05.19.10.58.81062@invalid.lan
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2005 06:52:02 -0700, Iain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> INSTALL INSTALL INSTALL. Either way I need to install. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't matter what I do -- someone always mentions
>>>>>>>>>>>> WinQuake(nothing to do with installation).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Were you born ignorant, or has a lifetime of spoon-feeding
>>>>>>>>>>> made you that way.  Do something for yourself, you lazy
>>>>>>>>>>> dweeb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He was just trying to get someone to tell him HOW he can get
>>>>>>>>>> the gamefiles unpacked and on his hd.  I'd call the person
>>>>>>>>>> stumped, not lazy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't normally be so persistant and uneloquent about it,
>>>>>>>>> but this question has been asked many many times by people and
>>>>>>>>> not one single person ever reads one of the questions properly
>>>>>>>>> and so everyone harps on about WinQuake and such -- I thought
>>>>>>>>> putting "INSTALL" in capitals in the original post would be
>>>>>>>>> enough, but someone still said "Use WinQuake".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answers elsewhere in the thread, btw.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're welcome :)  Did you get it installed yet?
>>>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep -- Deice wouldn't run in a DOS box until I found that my
>>>>>>> autoexec.nt(necessary for running many DOS-based software in XP)
>>>>>>> file was missing, for some reason, but got it running in the
>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good, excellent! :)  BTW- I discovered that installing XP SP2
>>>>>> installed its crap version of opengl32.dll.  Apparently
>>>>>> everywhere it occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>>> To get GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld working again, I simply took my
>>>>>> updated vid drivers version from system32 and copied it to my
>>>>>> Quake folder. That now works fine.  I'm glad.  I had been
>>>>>> missing my little monster
>>>>>
>>>>>> buddies ;)  And I did NOT like eQuake/FUH Quake for single player
>>>>>> at all.  Have you tried the grapple hook yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Grapple Hook as part of the Killer quake Pack -- tried
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Iain
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not yet, but I'll look for it now :)
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a compilation add-on containing about 300 mods and 500 impulse
>>> commands, including those for creating friendly and enemy bots --
>>> best add-on ever. So you can play against the bots with a grappling
>>> hook, head lopper, etc etc. also, there are nicer gibbing effects.
>>> You can also play online using it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Get this, I can remember *finally* getting over 26 fps in
>>>> 640x480-16 bits and then rejoicing when I got a 'decent' 3D
>>>> accelerator that let me play GLQuakeWorld and GLQuake in
>>>> 800x600-32 bits at around 46 fps.
>>>> I just set it up in 1280x1024-32 bits, got to the start for New
>>>> Game,
>>>
>>>> dropped the console and did the TIMEREFRESH.  Screen went *WHIZ!*
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> showed me 668.062886 fps :)  I think that's playable :)  Oh the
>>>> grief I used to go through to just play the game online.
>>>> Broadband is as big a help as a decent rig to play it on.
>>>> McG.
>>>
>>> 32-bit display in Quake will just hinder you; It won't improve the
>>> look because the textures are less than 32-bit colour.
>>
>> Doesn't matter.  32 bit runs great.  Can't see 'hinder' when the FPS
>> is in the hundreds :)  Even played on a couple ProQuake RUNES sites.
>> Swapped a few frags and now playing with my keys setups.  Will run
>> through the SP game again for old times sake :)
>
> I think Quake 1 Single Player deserves to be re-made. Artistically it
> was marvellous. I first played it in 1997 with the gamma down low, and
> swimming in the Grisly Grotto with a giant, floating, demonic sort of
> insect grub making a rasping sound whilst spitting yellow, buoyant goo
> at you is the ultimate nightmarish form of escape, as is the sound of
> a chainsaw being dragged around by something big, and the wheeze of a
> zombie around the next corner.
>
> ~Iain

Developers don't seem to like remaking old games to new engines.  There 
are a few, very few really, I personally feel are worthy.
Quake and Quake2.   Tombraider.   American McGee's ALICE, although it 
was pretty astounding even 5 years ago when it was released, it could be 
even better today.  The original Unreal.
These games, if remade to the excellent quality possible with todays 
engines, I would happily pay for all over again!
McG. 

McGrandpa wrote:
> "DorKwolf"
> 
> 
>>>Aw don't sweat it, it'll turn up somewhere.  I haven't even looked
>>>on my Quake downloads CD's yet.
>>>Malware isn't my reason for disliking mass p2p, it's my IP and system
>>>that become known to that hub.  I just don't like that.
>>>McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>RETROQUAKE has the Killer Quake Patch now.
>>http://www.planetquake.com/retroquake/
> 
> 
> Got it!
> Thanks
> McG. 
> 
> 
Yes? You don't like my name?

On Sun, 29 May 2005 07:20:52 +0000, DorKwolf wrote:

> Yes? You don't like my name?

I think it fits you perfectly.

-- 
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

"DorKwolf" <DorK313@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o3eme.2977$MI4.786@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "DorKwolf"
>>
>>
>>>> Aw don't sweat it, it'll turn up somewhere.  I haven't even looked
>>>> on my Quake downloads CD's yet.
>>>> Malware isn't my reason for disliking mass p2p, it's my IP and
>>>> system that become known to that hub.  I just don't like that.
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> RETROQUAKE has the Killer Quake Patch now.
>>> http://www.planetquake.com/retroquake/
>>
>>
>> Got it!
>> Thanks
>> McG.
>>
>>
> Yes? You don't like my name?

Which has to do with what?
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in news:Qjlme.19310$6g3.850
@tornado.texas.rr.com:

Tanebrae is now a problem to download. Try either Telejano or TomazQuake. 
There's also the GLQuake 1.13 exe as well. For eye candy, Telejano is 
second to Tanebrae, then the others follow. I use GLQuake 1.13 for 
comaptability with all the old classic mods like AlienQuake, Abyss of 
pandemonium, Nahara and the like. 

"Stan" <stan@where.com> wrote in message
news:1120720095.5e08b4bd7fd73ff6f026d1be827c24bf@teranews
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Qjlme.19310$6g3.850 @tornado.texas.rr.com:
>
> Tanebrae is now a problem to download. Try either Telejano or
> TomazQuake. There's also the GLQuake 1.13 exe as well. For eye candy,
> Telejano is second to Tanebrae, then the others follow. I use GLQuake
> 1.13 for comaptability with all the old classic mods like AlienQuake,
> Abyss of pandemonium, Nahara and the like.

Thanks,  I'm checking them out as I find them.  I have an early version 
of Tenebrai, have a good working version of GLQuake which is giving me 
the best service of all of them :)  Still, 1280x1024-32 gives me 247 
fps, sure wish I could have seen THAT back in the early days!
McG. 

> 
> Thanks,  I'm checking them out as I find them.  I have an early version 
> of Tenebrai, have a good working version of GLQuake which is giving me 
> the best service of all of them :)  Still, 1280x1024-32 gives me 247 
> fps, sure wish I could have seen THAT back in the early days!
> McG. 
> 
The highest res I can run at is 1024x768 but that's due to my monitor. If I 
run Telejano v8.41 I turn on everything especially all the mirror 
reflections, real smoke, etc. I was dissappointed that it would crash with 
somer of the old mods, hence TomazQuake 1.48 and GLQuake 1.13 as backups. 

Try looking here for all those old mods:

www.quaketerminus.com/addon.html  

and here: for Telejano: telejano.berlios.de/wiki3

"Stan" <stan@where.com> wrote in message
news:Wbxze.27886$oJ.11419@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>> Thanks,  I'm checking them out as I find them.  I have an early
>> version of Tenebrai, have a good working version of GLQuake which is
>> giving me the best service of all of them :)  Still, 1280x1024-32
>> gives me 247 fps, sure wish I could have seen THAT back in the early
>> days!
>> McG.
>>
> The highest res I can run at is 1024x768 but that's due to my
> monitor. If I run Telejano v8.41 I turn on everything especially all
> the mirror reflections, real smoke, etc. I was dissappointed that it
> would crash with somer of the old mods, hence TomazQuake 1.48 and
> GLQuake 1.13 as backups.
>
> Try looking here for all those old mods:
>
> www.quaketerminus.com/addon.html
>
> and here: for Telejano: telejano.berlios.de/wiki3

Ah, thought so, have Tenebrae and Telejano installed.  Not sure about 
running though.   When Quake classic crashes now, I've never seen it 
bomb so fast!  But then, 3 ghz P4 and 2 gigs PC3200 and a 6800GT help 
that along quite nicely :)
So why am I running such an old game on a rig like this?  Because it's 
fun!
McG. 

> 
> Ah, thought so, have Tenebrae and Telejano installed.  Not sure about 
> running though.   When Quake classic crashes now, I've never seen it 
> bomb so fast!  But then, 3 ghz P4 and 2 gigs PC3200 and a 6800GT help 
> that along quite nicely :)
> So why am I running such an old game on a rig like this?  Because it's 
> fun!
> McG. 
> 
> 
> How did you go downlaoding Tanebrae? Every time I try, I get about 3/4 of 
the download and then it stops. Someone suggested that it's because of a 
malformed packet being sent from the sourceforge server. Can it be 
downloaded anywhere else? - Stan

"Stan" <stan@where.com> wrote in message
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>> Ah, thought so, have Tenebrae and Telejano installed.  Not sure about
>> running though.   When Quake classic crashes now, I've never seen it
>> bomb so fast!  But then, 3 ghz P4 and 2 gigs PC3200 and a 6800GT help
>> that along quite nicely :)
>> So why am I running such an old game on a rig like this?  Because
>> it's fun!
>> McG.
>>
>>
>> How did you go downlaoding Tanebrae? Every time I try, I get about
>> 3/4 of
> the download and then it stops. Someone suggested that it's because
> of a malformed packet being sent from the sourceforge server. Can it
> be downloaded anywhere else? - Stan

I had it backed up to an archive cd of my games dl's.

I also just dl'd the latest version from here:
http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download.txt
no problems.

I got the 4.3 meg installer, the mapping tools and the water viss patch. 
Just now.  Check it again?

McG.