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Re: Please Consider and Boycott All EA Games!

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From: Nick Hounsome
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:47
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Tell your SO to grow up. I generally find that if banging my head against a 
wall hurts the cure is usually to stop doing it and not to complain that the 
wall is too hard.
Seriously I have been in software development 20 years and this stuff is 
just basic psychology and sound business (at least superficially): Putting 
aside the issue of whether or not you want dumb staff what is the smart 
thing to do if you find you can get your staff to work extra hours for 
nothing? Answer: try to get them to work a bit longer obviously! Software 
developers are expensive and this (at least to bean counters) clearly saves 
both time and big bucks. Why wouldn't you do it if they don't resist?

Personally I have almost always refused and it has never done my career any 
harm (I haven't got into management where working stupid hours is virtually 
a badge of honour) but I get a good rate.


In my experience overtime never helps anyway as software is just not 
something you can rush - pressure just makes more errors which take more 
time and there are always hundreds of extra progress meetings which sop up 
most of the extra hours.

>From a practical point of view your SO should do 2 things:
1. Go contract (assuming that is possible in your country. U.S.A. I assume). 
Then you are on an hourly rate and so they can't save money by making you 
work longer. [The usual 'illogical' reason they give for why you should do 
it is because of your 'professionalism'! Try asking a professional doctor 
(not NHS) or lawyer to work extra hours for no money and see how far you 
get![
2. Only an idiot would work in games software and moan about the hours - Any 
fool can tell that they are going to get more than enough geeks willing to 
devote their whole life to the job - just look at the gamers and modders - A 
huge number of them haven't got a life anyway so what's for them to lose.


If your SO worked in some third world sweat shop I might have some sympathy 
but there are plenty of other jobs.

Finally I have to say that I find EA games to be pretty good (to play) so 
I'm not complaining.

"Dev" <ztrezzedout...@easucks.com> wrote in message 
news:TtbHd.111638$Xk.109099@pd7tw3no...
> Please Consider And Boycott All EA Games!
>
> Please read all these articles. There is much to read but worth it to 
> inform
> yourself. For the good of all gamers and the games
> industry EA needs to go down in flames. If you have any good links feel 
> free
> to add.
> This affects the entire games industry people and the game players. EA has
> been killing good companies for years. Treats it's workers like shit and
> makes nothing but regurgitated games over and over year after year. Games
> support is almost Non-existent.
> Spread the word and don't buy EA games!
> Sorry for the crossposting but my friends and I here really believe 
> strongly
> in this.
> We as gamers are all in this together.
>
>
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/ea_spouse/
>
>
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041213/135991_1.html
>
> http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1507
>
> http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/20/151205&tid=187
>
> http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=6016
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/17/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4180453.stm
>
>
> 
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