🚀 go-pugleaf

Michael M. Eilers wrote:
> 
> In article <34326...@news.bfp.net>, sklomp@digitalpla.netNOSPAM wrote:
> 
> > In article <eilersm-3009...@phx-1-45.psn.net>,
> eil...@psn-remove.net (Michael M. Eilers) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'm a huge advocate for pirating software. I am one of the
> > >> (supposedly) many who try before we buy. I've gone through games like
> > >> MDK and Redneck Rampage, and personally, they stink. Sure, there were
> > >> a few new ideas, but they had no replay value. Quake, on the other
> > >> hand, is a great game, and that's why I bought it last week.
> > >> There used to be some kind of telnet BBS that had a try-before-you-buy
> > >> concept and you had 24 hours to try the full game before you deleted
> > >> it. If that were extended to two or three days, I think it's a great
> > >> idea.
> > >>
> > >> Pirating doesn't mean you're cheap (Usually, I don't support the
> > >> idiots who just suck up everything they can because they 'can'), it
> > >> means you want to know what you're buying.
> > >
> >
> > >Interesting theory. So I suppose you put 10,000 miles on a car before you
> > >buy it, just to see if it will last?
> >
> > No, but i usually take the car for a test drive before i buy it.
> 
> the poster above was suggesting that he had actually finished the games
> ("gone through") before he even considered buying them--that is far, far
> more than a test drive, requiring many hours of play for even a simple
> game. Thus my example.
> 
> > > Or perhaps you eat your food before
> > >paying for it, to see if it was good, and then puke it up and eat it again
> > >after you have paid.
> >
> > That was a stupid example. But i'd usually ask someone else their
> opinion on a
> > meal before i buy it.
> 
> See above.
> 
> > You are talking about permantly pirating a piece of software, which is not
> > what the guy was talking about. You are either ignorant of the practices
> > behind what i would call temporary pirating or are very well-to-do and can
> > afford any software you buy without even trying it.
> 
> Wrong on all counts. I buy software I can afford with a 30-day MBG; if I
> don't like it, I package it up and send it back, without leaving a copy on
> my hard drive. I've never had to pirate a single program, and I've never
> been stuck with one I don't like--and I've never had to rationalize or
> justify committing theft, unlike many posters to this thread.
> 
> > However, a lot of companies do makes demos (like game companies) my question
> > is why did he even pirate MDK or Redneck Rampage. There were demos of the
> > games out and even my 13 year-old nephew could tell that those games were
> > shallow and not worth buying.
> 
> Yes, pirating a game that has a demo out makes little sense at
> all--pirating the actual game takes up many times the disk space of the
> demo, and would take hours to download, and is illegal, and yet there is a
> legal way to find out if you like the game or not. In fact, there is
> *always* a legal way to find out. Pirates have no excuses whatsoever for
> their behavior.

while they have no excuse for doing something illegal, they do have a
point on trying out a game.  not all stores have 30-day money back
guarantees (none of the stores around my place seem to have them), so i
usually don't buy a game without playing a demo.  however, if there is
no demo, i rely on reviews and friends' opinions (i don't pirate myself)