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Re: Happy Groundhog Day! (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

#64112
From: tabm... 0MBAT
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:00
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This is in reference to <MPG.113c007ed...@news.demon.co.uk>, in
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <gqgA2.4334$pE6....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabm...@geoshitties.com says...
> 
> > There's no fear there, not even hatred.  I "love the sinner,
> > hate the sin".  
> 
> Are you saying you love all homosexuals without question? 
> If so why do you hate the "sin"? 

I hate the sin because it gets the *person* in trouble
(discrimination at the very least) when they could go and
seek professional help, get rid of it, and go on living
a normal life.

> What exactly is it you hate or fear?

Fear = nothing relevant to the conversation
Hate = Homosexuality.  Not homosexuals, homosexuality.

> > It was never even implied that homophobia
> > refers to the action, but the person.
> 
> The action and the person cannot be separated per se. 

Sure they can.  Would you rather stop all rape or kill all
rapists?  Simple, huh?

> The action makes the person what they are. 

I don't think so.  A non-smoker is still the same person they are
when they start smoking.  And then still the same person after that
when they stop.

> > > > > > How do you think someone who is inclined to practice bestiality
> > > > > > feels every day of his/her life?  Oh wait, you already answered
> > > > > > that with a simple "I do not care".
> > > > > 
> > > > > !
> > > > 
> > > > Do you remember that?  You said you did not care whether people
> > > > got put in jail for practicing bestiality or not...  you call
> > > > this compassionate?
> > > 
> > > I have no compassion for rapists. We have done this already. 
> > 
> > It's not always necessarily rape.
> 
> I have yet to have this shown.

I think "innocent until proven guilty".  You cannot say
"All people who have practiced bestiality have practiced
rape".  Some people have even been raped by animals,
so there ya go.

> > > > Still, it's better that the people inclined towards bestiality
> > > > get professional help rather than go to jail for it.
> > > 
> > > Rape = Jail sentence seems fine to me.
> > 
> > It's not always about rape, and it would be better to cure them
> > (at least give 
> > them some kind of treatment) to make sure that it
> > doesn't happen.
> 
> What treatment do you suggest? Doggy cum patches!

ROFL.  Like I said, therapy.

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From: tabm...@geoshitties.com (]{0MBAT)
Subject: Re: Happy Groundhog Day!  (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)
Date: 1999/02/23
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