🚀 go-pugleaf

All well and good that is your opinion, and just like the warez thing It can
be twisted to fit any point of view. But from first hand experience and
seeing with my own two eyes what drugs can do, I feel they should be totally
abolished.

That's my opinion and if someone doesn't like it, too fucking bad.

Malitor...


st...@dds.nl wrote in message <74iofp$b3j$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <MLTa2.1192$961....@server1.news.adelphia.net>,
>  tabmok99....@damnspaz.com (]{0MBAT) wrote:
>> This is in reference to <74gld2$fcj$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, in which a
>> one st...@dds.nl wrote:
>> > With marijuana, the user is far too lazy to do anything violent - and
>> > certainly too slow to do anything else illegal.
>> Marijuana, besides inducing paranoia, causes brain damage.
>
>So does football.  Marijuana does not cause any significant amount of brain
>damage compared with other everyday activities people engage in.
>
>> If there was
>> some medicine that caused brain damage as a side effect, would you take
>> it?  Would you let other people buy or sell it, and let them get brain
>> damage?
>
>Of course i would.  There should be *NOTHING* which is illegal to put
inside
>your body.  If someone wants to eat cyanide, let them do it.  If someone
wants
>to eat LSD, let them do it.  If someone wants to eat brussel sprouts, let
them
>do it.
>
>[LSD, hallucinogens]
>> Yes, but people sometimes kill themselves while hallucinating because of
>> the drugs.
>
>No.  People kill themselves because they're stupid.  When you hallucinate
you
>know that you're halluncinating.  If the user gets to a stage where they
don't
>know any more, then it's their fault for going that far and if they die
that's
>too bad.  Everyone knows the dangers.  When you step into a car you're
taking
>the risk that you'll crash and burn.  But you do it anyway because you want
to
>get from A to B.  You take a risk.  If you die it's your fault.
>
>[heroin, opiates]
>> These drugs all have harmful long-term effects, which are too dangerous
to let
>> everyone fall victim too.
>
>No they don't. They have harmful long-term effects *if* you use them
>irresponsibly. Driving a car has harmful long-term effects too if you
insist
>on driving at 200 miles an hour round every corner.  Heroin is in fact one
of
>the LEAST physically harmful drugs around.  The reason some addicts die is
>because they get bad stuff or because they don't have the money to feed
>themselves.
>
>[speed, coke]
>> These would fuck too many people up also, as well as pregnant women's
unborn
>> children.
>>
>
>If you're pregnant and you take drugs and harm your child that's YOUR
>CONSCIOUS CHOICE.  Really and truly Justin - do you really think all drug
>users are mindly zombies who are high 24/7?  Of course they're not!  That's
a
>very, very small minority which is glorified by the DEA so people like you
>will back their cause 100%.
>
>> > The real problem is people, not drugs.
>>
>> And "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."
>
>Exactly.
>
>> There are too many
>> people who can't be trusted to use them right to make them legal to
>> everyone.
>
>If people can't be trusted there's only one way to teach them. I mean, what
>the hell are you going to do?  Ban cars?  Ban all motored transport?  Hell,
>better ban horses too - they've trampled people before.  Gee let's ban
>kitchen knives in case another Ms Bobbit appears.  Don't be silly.  It's
the
>people who are stupid, and they'll be stupid with or without accessories.
>Don't be so naive as to think that getting rid of drugs will get rid of the
>problem, because drugs aren't the problem - people are.
>
>> And making it easy for them to act violent should be legal???
>
>Ever hear of something called "freedom"???
>
>> That would be great.  If we got rid of their anger, we wouldn't even need
>> drugs or guns.
>
>Says who?  Perfectly happy people like to go hunting or to take drugs.
It's
>called "recreation".
>
>> > There is a difference between weak drugs, and drugs which aren't at all
what
>> > you're expecting and instead *kill* you.  You buy a bottle of beer and
it's
>> > laced with cyanide.  That's not just "tampering" with it.
>> Beer will kill all your brain cells anyway, if you drink it enough.
>
>Hello. I'm not talking about drinking enough. I'm talking about drinking
>one glass.  One line of coke which is rat poison and that's it.  It's not
the
>same.
>
>> It would provide a wider problem because tehre are people who would use
them
>> and then do crazy things.
>
>Typical of those who are anti-legalization you completely miss the point
even
>though it's been stated twice in two posts.  And you'll probably miss it
again
>and again and again - i've spent months playing ping pong with people who
>swallow the DEA propaganda like you do.  You don't realize how brainwashed
you
>really are.  But i'll give it another try.
>
>THERE WOULD BE NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN USERS IF DRUGS WERE LEGALIZED
>BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IS USING THEM ANYWAY.
>
>> Because they figure, "Well I'm not breaking the law, I'm not doing a
thing
>> wrong, I'll try it."
>
>Would you?  You ignored the question before, but i know you wouldn't.  And
>don't think you're the only one in the world with that attitude - there are
>an awful lot.
>
>> > If gay marriage becomes legal does every man in the country get married
to
>> > another man?  Of course not - because they're not interested.  Even
many gay
>> > men aren't interested.
>>
>> Look at all the flocks of people flying down to Hawaii for that reason
alone.
>
>Flocks.  Millions.  Billions.  You're being brainwashed by the media again.
>
>> Then obviously you'll use drugs anyway.  Drugs being illegal isn't enough
to
>> stop you, but that doesn't mean that it won't stop other people.
>
>Believe me, a shitload more people use drugs than will ever admit it.
>
>> Why would they be any different than cigarette and alcohol ads?  Look at
all
>> the cigarette ads in magazines and buses (sp?) where people are eating
pizza
>> and smiling with their clean white teeth and no tar stains at all holding
a
>> box of cigarettes.  It would be the same thing with drug ads.
>
>Not if drug advertizing was banned.  Not if drugs were sold by the
government
>as a public service instead of a company trying to make money. But even if
>those ads did come into use.  How many people pick up a cigarette for the
>first time due to seeing the Marlboro man?  People are savvy to it now.
The
>cigarette companies themselves admit that their advertizing is designed to
>pull users from brand X to their brand - nothing more. They don't expect to
>get new users, because new users aren't swayed by advertizing.
>
>> Brain damage, and suicide.  Command & Conquer won't make you kill
yourself if
>> you lose.
>
>Drugs won't make you kill yourself either.  Only people who are already
>predisposed toward doing that will do it.  As for harmful side-effects of
>computer games - sleep deprivation, RSI, damaged eyesight...
>
>> Yes, but drugs being legal would bring out the worst in everyone,
regardless
>> of whose fault it is.
>
>Oh this is such drivel, really.  I expected more of you from other posts in
>the past - this is just silly.
>
>> > I don't think use of these drugs would increase dramatically with
>> > legalization.  It might seem that way because alot of people would come
out
>> > of the closet, but i do believe most of the people who want to do it
already
>> > are.
>> If that were true, then you shouldn't care whether they're legal or not.
>>
>
>I care, because i want to be able to go out to a club with a tab in my
pocket
>and decide on the night whether or not i want to do it rather than being
>forced to take it beforehand just in case the cops decide to search me.  I
>care, because i want people who go on bad trips or have a really bad
comedown
>to have the support of the hospitals.  I care, because i don't want
hundreds
>of innocent people being killed in South America in the middle of the Drug
>Wars.  I care, because i don't want the government throwing away billions
of
>dollars every year which could be put to much better use elsewhere.  I care
>about humankind as a whole.  This is one of the best policy changes which
>could be introduced to any country - there is no other area in which so
many
>people are being outlawed and discriminated against.
>
>Alex
>
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