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This is in reference to <MPG.10d3f680c...@news.demon.co.uk>, in which a
one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <74799l$t5h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, st...@dds.nl says...
> [snip]
> > > > whatever else - i don't condone heroin usage, but if someone wants to do
>  it
> > > > they shouldn't get in any trouble for that.
> > > Heroin usage? OK, let us legalise Class A drugs for suicide since that is
> > > what it amounts to.
> > 
> > Well not necessarily.  There are people out there who can take heroin
> > responsibly.  It's less addictive than nicotine.
> 
> But there are far many that cannot. Plus there are a number of situations 
> where a first time user could die from side effects which could be 
> foreseen and treated when prescribed for a medical condition, but I 
> cannot see Sainsbury's and Safeway being so careful in who they "sell" it 
> to in an open market. ;)

I could see them being careful about it.  There'd be an age restriction to
it, and they would card everyone who tried to purchase some.  (Of course
with the legalization of drugs like this, it would be that much easier for
children to get ahold of it and mess up their lives, with or without the
age restriction.

One thing's for sure, this would give a whole new meaning to the term
"drug store" ;-)

> > > But ignoring this obvious conclusion to the poor soul
> > > taking the shit, the problem is financing the habit, hence the crime rate
> > > related to drug abuse.
> > 
> > And if it were legalized and could be sold over the counter the crime rate
> > related to the black market would disappear.  There would be a greatly
> 
> I doubt that. There are many crimes associated with alcoholism and other 
> legal drug abuse so why would legalising such a drug cut the crime rate? 

That's a good point, I was thinking something along the lines of "If 
everything were legalized, crime rate would go down 100%".  But that's
true, there would still be crimes involving the use of drugs.

> Can you imagine the Government health warning (Surgeon General for our US 
> readers) on that one :P

Hehe, never even thought about that.  The cartons on the marijuana cases
would have to be a lot bigger. 

> > This is one of those issues which can drag on longer than warez is bad.  It
> > happenned over the space of about 3 months on alt.music.techno a year or two
> > ago...  To be honest completely do not understand anyone who is against the
> > legalization of drugs.  There are so many positive sides to it - the only
> 
> Never heard a good reason for it. Pure and simple. 

Me neither.  I hope Alex will give us some good reason.

> The only real argument I have ever heard for legalisation are to enable 
> accessible medical treatment for junkies. Surely prevention is better 
> than cure and legalisation would provide a much wider problem so I do not 
> consider this argument even vaguely valid.

Marijuana is curing anorexia, I heard/read.  So that's kind of a good
reason, but I don't think that warrants over the counter sale.

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> Europe is one *big* place. Many Eastern European countries are not 
> members of the EC and I do not see how their internal squabbles over 
> territory relate to the EC's attempt at harmonisation. The EC are trying 
> to build one *big* thing from many parts, while Eastern Europe seems to 
> take one big thing and make many parts. Then each part wants to become 
> part of the growing EC! Maybe they should have skipped a step somewhere 
> ;)

That's a good point.  I don't think the EC will work, or if it does it
won't last long.  The original thirteen colonies were already kind of
stuck together against a common "enemy" - Great Britain.  The colonies
were stuck together away from the rest of the world and were "sisters"
to each other which is why a unification was easy.  They united pretty 
quickly, too.  It's not like Europe which just grew apart too quickly
for something like this to work.
 
> > Actually - and just suspend your rationality for a sec here - i've often
> > thought that if some aliens decided to attack the Earth it'd be the number
> > one way to get all the countries to unite and mark the start of a proper
> > planetary union instead of continuing on with the silly lines on the map. 
> > Then of course we'd need an intergalactic menace to unite the Milky Way... 
> > Then an interdimensional menace to unite the universe...  Then. . . . :)
> 
> Very astute! :)
> 
> Interesting. Seems the only way that society will jump to the next stage. 
> 
> We have the rather unlikely alien invasion. The increasing common 
> asteroid/meteor threats. Un curable disease. The third world war. 

I like these choices better than the alien invasion :P  More realistic, and 
makes a unity actually seem possible.  If Europe can do it, we all can do it, 
but Communism and all that needs to end first.

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