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Carlos Correia wrote:
> After playing a while, i have noticed that RV's cannot find "depots" facing
> East and South; OTOH, they can find without any problems depots facing
> North and West...

I think this is a genuine TTD bug, not specific to TTDPatch.  (BTW, what 
do you consider 'north' in TTD?  Left up or right up?)

> In random map creations, no transmitters are being placed in the
> maps, only lighthouses (bug noticed in temperate and artic).

Due to a silly bug in TTD's random map creation procedure, transmitters 
can appear only on farmlands.  Oh, and they can't appear below certain 
altitude (6 levels above sea to be exact), but that's intended.  I guess 
you've got a modified set of industries with no TTD-style farmlands.

Unfortunately, when I tried to fix it the most obvious way, the map got 
littered by tens of transmitters.  I haven't yet figured out why it 
works right in TTO, after all.

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Marcin Grzegorczyk wrote:
> Carlos Correia wrote:
> 
>> After playing a while, i have noticed that RV's cannot find "depots" 
>> facing
>> East and South; OTOH, they can find without any problems depots facing
>> North and West...
> 
> I think this is a genuine TTD bug, not specific to TTDPatch.

It may also be a bug in the trams code, in that case it's extremely likely 
to already be fixed in the latest version.

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"Marcin Grzegorczyk" <mgrzegor@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
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> Carlos Correia wrote:
> > After playing a while, i have noticed that RV's cannot find "depots"
facing
> > East and South; OTOH, they can find without any problems depots facing
> > North and West...
>
> I think this is a genuine TTD bug, not specific to TTDPatch.  (BTW, what
> do you consider 'north' in TTD?  Left up or right up?)

Right up, like normally, all consider.

>
> > In random map creations, no transmitters are being placed in the
> > maps, only lighthouses (bug noticed in temperate and artic).
>
> Due to a silly bug in TTD's random map creation procedure, transmitters
> can appear only on farmlands.  Oh, and they can't appear below certain
> altitude (6 levels above sea to be exact), but that's intended.  I guess
> you've got a modified set of industries with no TTD-style farmlands.

Not really...

>
> Unfortunately, when I tried to fix it the most obvious way, the map got
> littered by tens of transmitters.  I haven't yet figured out why it
> works right in TTO, after all.
>
> --
> Marcin Grzegorczyk

Op Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:34:39 +0100 schreef Carlos Correia <cak@oninet.pt>:
> "Marcin Grzegorczyk" <mgrzegor@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
> news:dt2092$ik6$1@server.our.house...
>> Carlos Correia wrote:
>>
>> what do you consider 'north' in TTD?  Left up or right up?
>
> Right up, like normally, all consider.

I guess I'm not normal then.  Have you done statistical analyses on this?


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Boudewijn Dijkstra wrote:
> Op Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:34:39 +0100 schreef Carlos Correia <cak@oninet.pt>:
>> "Marcin Grzegorczyk" <mgrzegor@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message news:dt2092$ik6$1@server.our.house...
>>> what do you consider 'north' in TTD?  Left up or right up?
>>
>> Right up, like normally, all consider.
> 
> I guess I'm not normal then.

This was my point: different people have different idea of 'north' in 
TT-style projection.

In any case, the *real* north in TT is up (yes, diagonally).  That's how 
default station names work.
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> > > In random map creations, no transmitters are being placed in the
> > > maps, only lighthouses (bug noticed in temperate and artic).
> >
> > Due to a silly bug in TTD's random map creation procedure, transmitters
> > can appear only on farmlands.  Oh, and they can't appear below certain
> > altitude (6 levels above sea to be exact), but that's intended.  I guess
> > you've got a modified set of industries with no TTD-style farmlands.
>
> Not really...

Now i understand why, in a random creation with industries hi and mountain
map, the engine placed 4 transmitter next to each other in a farmland...

> > Unfortunately, when I tried to fix it the most obvious way, the map got
> > littered by tens of transmitters.  I haven't yet figured out why it
> > works right in TTO, after all.

 I think Chris Sawyer was aware of that and made that option. That's not
a real problem isn't it? When i want a transmitter, i go to the map editor
and place it... It looks good, since i have the transmiter GRF from Andres.

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Carlos Correia wrote:
> [random transmitters only in farmlands]
>  I think Chris Sawyer was aware of that and made that option.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't...  this has all the marks of a silly bug.

> That's not
> a real problem isn't it? When i want a transmitter, i go to the map editor
> and place it...

When you create a random game, you need TTDPatch (or file extension 
hack) to be able to load it into the editor.  TTD was not supposed to 
allow this.

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