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7 total messages Started by Jonty Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:56
Unload Order?
#28385
Author: Jonty
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:56
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Hi everyone,

I've been out of the loop for a while and I've just come back and discovered 
all these new wonders - one way roads, NewStations 0.4 etc.  However, I was 
playing a61 this afternoon on the Metromegalopolis scenario and I needed to 
have a train with an 'unload' order. It went from one Iron Ore mine, loaded, 
went to another one and unloaded.  The idea was that the bigger train 
waiting there would pick up the unloaded Ore and go off to the Steel Mill. 
But... when the first train unloads in the station, the big train loads with 
Iron Ore, then empties and gets less money than it should for it!  Then it 
slowly loads normally until the first train comes again, and fills it up! 
This is annoying because it means the big train never leaves the station so 
I'm not producing any Steel.  Is this a bug in the Patch, or am I just doing 
something wrong?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jonty
P.S. I can email anyone my savegame and ttdpatch.cfg if they want 
Re: Unload Order?
#28386
Author: Stevie D
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:57
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Jonty wrote:

> I've been out of the loop for a while and I've just come back and discovered 
> all these new wonders - one way roads, NewStations 0.4 etc.  However, I was 
> playing a61 this afternoon on the Metromegalopolis scenario and I needed to 
> have a train with an 'unload' order. It went from one Iron Ore mine, loaded, 
> went to another one and unloaded.  The idea was that the bigger train 
> waiting there would pick up the unloaded Ore and go off to the Steel Mill. 
> But... when the first train unloads in the station, the big train loads with 
> Iron Ore, then empties and gets less money than it should for it!  Then it 
> slowly loads normally until the first train comes again, and fills it up! 
> This is annoying because it means the big train never leaves the station so 
> I'm not producing any Steel.  Is this a bug in the Patch, or am I just doing 
> something wrong?

I'm having difficulty visualising what you mean here.

What I can see is...

Small Iron Ore Mine	Big Iron Ore Mine	Steel Mill
โ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€กโ€ก

With one train taking iron from the small mine to the big mine, and
then a big train taking all the iron to the steel mill.

In which case, you need to have:
Small train orders:
1. Small Iron Ore Mine (Full load)
2. Big Iron Ore Mine (Unload)

And big train orders:
1. Big Iron Ore Mine (Full load)
2. Steel Mill.

Does that help?

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Re: Unload Order?
#28387
Author: Jonty
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:36
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Thanks for the reply, I know what you mean, I thought it seemed a bit 
baffling!  The thing is, I have the same orders as those you wrote and 
that's why I can't understand what's going on.  If I put the big train in 
the Depot and just let the small one come and unload the Station window 
should say '<amount> tons of Iron Ore (en-route from <station name> 
Station)' but it doesn't, it just says the usual '<amount> tons of Iron 
Ore'.  Another thing I noticed is that when the big train loads with the 
Iron Ore en-route from the first station which, for instance, is called 
Gruntown South (I can't remember it's real name!) it actually says on the 
carriages window that the first few carriages are filled with Iron Ore that 
is actually from that station, and the rest fill up with Iron Ore from 
Gruntown South, which is when it gets rid of it all and makes money from 
nowhere!  It doesn't accept Iron Ore at that station so I don't know where 
it's going.  This is seeming more and more like a bug to me!

Thanks,

Jonty

P.S. sorry if I'm confusing everyone again!
"Stevie D" <stevieinyork@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:60uqk117sn7i4h7iqp0adjdj0lupalpmsd@4ax.com...
> Jonty wrote:
>
>> I've been out of the loop for a while and I've just come back and 
>> discovered
>> all these new wonders - one way roads, NewStations 0.4 etc.  However, I 
>> was
>> playing a61 this afternoon on the Metromegalopolis scenario and I needed 
>> to
>> have a train with an 'unload' order. It went from one Iron Ore mine, 
>> loaded,
>> went to another one and unloaded.  The idea was that the bigger train
>> waiting there would pick up the unloaded Ore and go off to the Steel 
>> Mill.
>> But... when the first train unloads in the station, the big train loads 
>> with
>> Iron Ore, then empties and gets less money than it should for it!  Then 
>> it
>> slowly loads normally until the first train comes again, and fills it up!
>> This is annoying because it means the big train never leaves the station 
>> so
>> I'm not producing any Steel.  Is this a bug in the Patch, or am I just 
>> doing
>> something wrong?
>
> I'm having difficulty visualising what you mean here.
>
> What I can see is...
>
> Small Iron Ore Mine Big Iron Ore Mine Steel Mill
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> With one train taking iron from the small mine to the big mine, and
> then a big train taking all the iron to the steel mill.
>
> In which case, you need to have:
> Small train orders:
> 1. Small Iron Ore Mine (Full load)
> 2. Big Iron Ore Mine (Unload)
>
> And big train orders:
> 1. Big Iron Ore Mine (Full load)
> 2. Steel Mill.
>
> Does that help?
>
> -- 
>                          Stevie D
>    \\\\\       /////     Bringing dating agencies to the
>   \\\\\\\__X__///////    common hedgehog since 2001 - "HedgeHugs"
> ___\\\\\\\'/ \'///////_____________________________________________ 
Fixed!
#28388
Author: Jonty
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:51
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Looks like Csaba has fixed it in a63:

* fixed bug in load/unload code that made trains deliver cargo to stations 
which didn't accept it

I haven't downloaded the update yet but this looks like the one.

Thanks!!

Jonty
Re: Fixed!
#28389
Author: Josef Drexler
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:15
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Jonty wrote:
> Looks like Csaba has fixed it in a63:
> 
> * fixed bug in load/unload code that made trains deliver cargo to stations 
> which didn't accept it
> 
> I haven't downloaded the update yet but this looks like the one.

Maybe you should try it first...

Csaba told that this probably wasn't what he fixed.

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Fixed!... Probably
#28390
Author: Jonty
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:10
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Josef Drexler wrote...

> Maybe you should try it first...
>
> Csaba told that this probably wasn't what he fixed.

I've played the updated game and I haven't seen it do it again... yet.  It 
only happens if the small train makes the big train fully load when it 
unloads its cargo.  I'll keep watching and post here again if I see it.

Jonty 
Re: Fixed!... Probably
#28391
Author: Donald J Braun
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:30
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I unloaded train of 14 cars of coal at a station with a 45 car coal train
waiting to load.  Running ten trains into the station all unloading and then
two 45 car trains loading and traveling clear across the map.   Also there
is a coal mine feeding the station at the same time. All unload and  load
AOK no problems.  Note I  use 2.0.1 aphia 61,62,63, and have not had your
problem.
I use the window version of TTD and it patches.

Don

"Jonty" <jontycomp@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4350c781_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> Josef Drexler wrote...
>
> > Maybe you should try it first...
> >
> > Csaba told that this probably wasn't what he fixed.
>
> I've played the updated game and I haven't seen it do it again... yet.  It
> only happens if the small train makes the big train fully load when it
> unloads its cargo.  I'll keep watching and post here again if I see it.
>
> Jonty
>
>
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