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Started by CTM
Mon, 09 Aug 2004 11:56
Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 11:56
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 11:56
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I have my original TTDLX disc... old and battered and will probably run. How can you tell if it is the dos or windows version of the game by looking at the contents of the disc? Any help gratefully received CTM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.734 / Virus Database: 488 - Release Date: 04/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Owen Rudge
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:06
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:06
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> I have my original TTDLX disc... old and battered and will probably run. How > can you tell if it is the dos or windows version of the game by looking at > the contents of the disc? If you see the files SETUP.EXE, TTconfig.EXE or UniFISH.exe, it's the Windows version. There may also be a DirectX folder on the CD. Otherwise, it's the DOS version. -- Owen Rudge http://www.owenrudge.net/ MSN Messenger: owen@owenrudge.net ICQ: 125455765
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Josef Drexler
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:38
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:38
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CTM wrote on Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:56:53 +0000 (UTC): > I have my original TTDLX disc... old and battered and will probably run. How > can you tell if it is the dos or windows version of the game by looking at > the contents of the disc? If you have tycoon.exe or ttdx.exe, it's the DOS version. If you have gamegfx.exe, it's the Windows version. -- Josef Drexler | http://publish.uwo.ca/~jdrexler/ ---------------------------------+--------------------------------------- Please help Conserve Gravity | Email address is *valid*. Play Hockey, not Baseball. | Don't remove the "nospam" part.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Owen Rudge
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:33
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:33
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> If you have tycoon.exe or ttdx.exe, it's the DOS version. If you have > gamegfx.exe, it's the Windows version. On the CD though, you won't have GameGFX.exe, you'll have English.exe, American.exe, Spanish.exe, French.exe and German.exe. -- Owen Rudge http://www.owenrudge.net/ MSN Messenger: owen@owenrudge.net ICQ: 125455765
Re: Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:19
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:19
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"Owen Rudge" <nntp@owenrudge.net> wrote in message news:2nq8ttF3h3s0U1@uni-berlin.de... > > If you have tycoon.exe or ttdx.exe, it's the DOS version. If you have > > gamegfx.exe, it's the Windows version. > > On the CD though, you won't have GameGFX.exe, you'll have English.exe, > American.exe, Spanish.exe, French.exe and German.exe. > > -- > Owen Rudge > http://www.owenrudge.net/ > > MSN Messenger: owen@owenrudge.net > ICQ: 125455765 > > Looked at my cd after your kind responses. It has mpscopy.exe and install.exe in the root directory. In the English directory it has the same two files. No other exe files at all.The only tycoon file is tycoon.ovl So its the dos version then? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.734 / Virus Database: 488 - Release Date: 04/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Tom Cumming
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:01
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:01
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On 09/08/04 23:19, CTM wrote: > Looked at my cd after your kind responses. It has mpscopy.exe and > install.exe in the root directory. In the English directory it has the same > two files. No other exe files at all.The only tycoon file is tycoon.ovl > > So its the dos version then? Yup that's the DOS version. It will still work in Windows 95/98/ME, but if you want to use it under Windows XP then you will need the Windows version. -- Tom Cumming New to this newsgroup? Please have a read of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list at <http://www.tt-forums.net/faq/>. Thanks.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:03
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:03
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Yup that's the DOS version. > It will still work in Windows 95/98/ME, but if you want to use it > under Windows XP then you will need the Windows version. > I have Win Me. I tried to install it again and it does not work from this disc. At one point, I get a enlarged version of the dos screen and then my system jams. I gave up in the end. However, I have got a windows version of the game up using a win download and the ttpatch and am having fun. My only problem is that I have to change my screen resolution from 1024X768 to 800X600 to get a comfortable viewing screen. It is still not perfect as I cant maximise the screen to fill the monitor screen if that makes sense. And if it does, is this a common problem? The reason that I asked my initial question was that I am interested in the OpenTTD game and it needs the windows disc. Alas, thanks to you people I have been told that I don't have it. I think that its ebay time!!!! CTM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 09/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Owen Rudge
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:53
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:53
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> However, I have got a windows version of the game up using a win download > and the ttpatch and am having fun. My only problem is that I have to change > my screen resolution from 1024X768 to 800X600 to get a comfortable viewing > screen. It is still not perfect as I cant maximise the screen to fill the > monitor screen if that makes sense. And if it does, is this a common > problem? If you press ALT and ENTER, the game will switch to full-screen. -- Owen Rudge http://www.owenrudge.net/ MSN Messenger: owen@owenrudge.net ICQ: 125455765
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Tom Cumming
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:18
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:18
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On 10/08/04 10:03, CTM wrote: > I have Win Me. I tried to install it again and it does not work from this > disc. At one point, I get a enlarged version of the dos screen and then my > system jams. I gave up in the end. WinME should run either. > However, I have got a windows version of the game up using a win download > and the ttpatch and am having fun. My only problem is that I have to change > my screen resolution from 1024X768 to 800X600 to get a comfortable viewing > screen. It is still not perfect as I cant maximise the screen to fill the > monitor screen if that makes sense. And if it does, is this a common > problem? If you are running the Windows version (as I think you are implying) then you need to run the "TTConfig" program. Somewhere in there you can configure it to either run in-a-window or full screen. If you set it to full screen you will get it at 640x480 full screen this is usually the best you will get. When it is in-a-window you unfortunately cannot maximise it as the graphics are fixed at 640x480. Some versions of the patch have an option to change the in-a-window resolution, but it does it by streching it, so it does not really look all that good. > The reason that I asked my initial question was that I am interested in the > OpenTTD game and it needs the windows disc. Alas, thanks to you people I > have been told that I don't have it. If you've got the Windows version running then you should be ok, as the files on the CD will probably be in your install folder as well. -- Tom Cumming New to this newsgroup? Please have a read of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list at <http://www.tt-forums.net/faq/>. Thanks.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Josef Drexler
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:50
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:50
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Owen Rudge wrote on Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:53:17 +0100: > > However, I have got a windows version of the game up using a win download > > and the ttpatch and am having fun. My only problem is that I have to > change > > my screen resolution from 1024X768 to 800X600 to get a comfortable viewing > > screen. It is still not perfect as I cant maximise the screen to fill the > > monitor screen if that makes sense. And if it does, is this a common > > problem? > > If you press ALT and ENTER, the game will switch to full-screen. That doesn't work in the Windows version, only the DOS version. -- Josef Drexler | http://publish.uwo.ca/~jdrexler/ ---------------------------------+--------------------------------------- Please help Conserve Gravity | Email address is *valid*. Walk with a light step. | Don't remove the "nospam" part.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:24
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:24
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> > I have Win Me. I tried to install it again and it does not work from this > > disc. At one point, I get a enlarged version of the dos screen and then my > > system jams. I gave up in the end. > > WinME should run either. It runs the downloaded windows version through the TTpatch but not the Dos version does not even load from my disc.... not sure why .... > > However, I have got a windows version of the game up using a win download > > and the ttpatch and am having fun. My only problem is that I have to change > > my screen resolution from 1024X768 to 800X600 to get a comfortable viewing > > screen. It is still not perfect as I cant maximise the screen to fill the > > monitor screen if that makes sense. And if it does, is this a common > > problem? > > If you are running the Windows version (as I think you are > implying) then you need to run the "TTConfig" program. Somewhere > in there you can configure it to either run in-a-window or full > screen. If you set it to full screen you will get it at 640x480 > full screen this is usually the best you will get. My 'normal' screen size is 1024X768 on a 17" monitor. I have tried using the TTCConfig file, setting it to full screen and the game pointer but the screen and the PC crashed on me. Again I am not sure why but it seems to be my graphics card or the way that windows has been set up on this machine. What you say about the resolution makes sense if I am trying to get the game to run in 1024X768 mode and the maximum and best size is 640x480. Somehow I get it to run at 800X600!!! Funnily enough, if I set my screen size to 640x480 and then run the game it also crashes. > > When it is in-a-window you unfortunately cannot maximise it as the > graphics are fixed at 640x480. Some versions of the patch have an > option to change the in-a-window resolution, but it does it by > streching it, so it does not really look all that good. > > > The reason that I asked my initial question was that I am interested in the > > OpenTTD game and it needs the windows disc. Alas, thanks to you people I > > have been told that I don't have it. > > If you've got the Windows version running then you should be ok, > as the files on the CD will probably be in your install folder as > well. I guess that you are probably correct here. i think that I will try to download the OpenTTD version and when it asks for the files that it needs i shall point it to the windows version on my HDD. I guess its a hit opr miss affair until I can get it to work. Thanks for your help anyway! CTM > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 09/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Owen Rudge
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:03
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:03
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> That doesn't work in the Windows version, only the DOS version. I thought CTM was talking about OpenTTD, but now I see that they were actually talking about TTD. -- Owen Rudge http://www.owenrudge.net/ MSN Messenger: owen@owenrudge.net ICQ: 125455765
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Tom Cumming
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:50
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:50
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On 11/08/04 00:24, CTM wrote: > My 'normal' screen size is 1024X768 on a 17" monitor. I have tried using the > TTCConfig file, setting it to full screen and the game pointer but the > screen and the PC crashed on me. That is strange. Maybe your video card is incompatible for some reason. > Again I am not sure why but it seems to be > my graphics card or the way that windows has been set up on this machine. > What you say about the resolution makes sense if I am trying to get the game > to run in 1024X768 mode and the maximum and best size is 640x480. 640x480 is the *only* resolution that TTD can run in. Remember this game came out in the mid-1990s, when 640x480 was about all that most monitors could handle! The only thing you can change is whether it runs in full screen, or whether it runs in a window. However, OpenTTD is different. You *can* run open TTD in various different resolutions. -- Tom Cumming New to this newsgroup? Please have a read of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list at <http://www.tt-forums.net/faq/>. Thanks.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Josef Drexler
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:23
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:23
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Tom Cumming wrote: > On 11/08/04 00:24, CTM wrote: > >> My 'normal' screen size is 1024X768 on a 17" monitor. I have tried using >> the TTCConfig file, setting it to full screen and the game pointer but >> the screen and the PC crashed on me. > > That is strange. Maybe your video card is incompatible for some > reason. That looks like it, yes. >> Again I am not sure why but it seems to be >> my graphics card or the way that windows has been set up on this machine. >> What you say about the resolution makes sense if I am trying to get the >> game to run in 1024X768 mode and the maximum and best size is 640x480. > > 640x480 is the *only* resolution that TTD can run in. Remember > this game came out in the mid-1990s, when 640x480 was about all > that most monitors could handle! The only thing you can change is > whether it runs in full screen, or whether it runs in a window. Well with TTDPatch you can also "stretch" the Windows size if you like, but that does slow down the graphics and doesn't actually change the resolution, it only doubles some pixels. If you want to try that, look into the "stretchwindow" option.
Re: Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:39
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:39
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<snipped> > I thought CTM was talking about OpenTTD, but now I see that they were > actually talking about TTD. > Apologies for the confusion. The reason for my initial question was to find out what version of the game I had on my CD. I had downloaded a windows version and the ttpatch and after some fiddling got the game to work in WinMe. It runs fine even if the screen is small on my monitor and I cant get it to fill my screen Then someone posted a message about OpenTTD which seems to 'modernise' the game with more options and allow it to be run on WinMe. I am following the progress of this and will probably download and play it. Thanks all for your help anyway.... CTM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 09/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: CTM
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:45
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:45
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... and I forgot to say that you need the windows version for OpenTTD.... CTM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 09/08/2004
Re: Dos or windows
Author: Tom Cumming
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:38
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:38
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On 11/08/04 19:22, Josef Drexler wrote: > Well with TTDPatch you can also "stretch" the Windows size if you like, but > that does slow down the graphics and doesn't actually change the > resolution, it only doubles some pixels. If you want to try that, look > into the "stretchwindow" option. Yes - I did not mention that because, as you say in the instructions, it does not look very nice unless you stretch it by a "nice" ratio. Since the OP's normal screen resolution is 1024x768, I'm guessing it probably would not look very nice like that. -- Tom Cumming New to this newsgroup? Please have a read of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list at <http://www.tt-forums.net/faq/>. Thanks.
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