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9 total messages Started by Wlodziu Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:24
Factories Production
#27636
Author: Wlodziu
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:24
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The most frustrating thing for me is reducing production by factories (coal
mines, oil wells, etc.) while playing TTD.
Is there any chance to control it?
I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly reduce
production:(

Wlodziu
Re: Factories Production
#27637
Author: Afoklala
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:42
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Op Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:24:58 +0200 schreef Wlodziu:

> The most frustrating thing for me is reducing production by factories (coal
> mines, oil wells, etc.) while playing TTD.
> Is there any chance to control it?
> I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly reduce
> production:(
> 
Well, it is realistic, isn't it? Sometimes accidents happen, mismanagement
occurs, so it's only fair that factories aren't 100% reliable.

-- 
Jan Willem from Odijk, Netherlands
jw dot van dot dormolen at hccnet dot nl

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Re: Factories Production
#27638
Author: Wlodziu
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:23
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I agree it's a part of realism, but let's be honest, TTD isn't simulator!
It's a game to have really good fun, but this feature damage everything...

Can I turn it off? Maybe it could be a new switch in next TTD Patch version?

The best solution could be reward high % of transported goods (above 80)
by increasing production of the factory and punish low % of transported
(below 60)
by reducing production.
Ofcourse it shoud concerns only those factories which are using by players.

In some way it works now, but surprises happen quite often...


What do you think about it Josef??


Wlodziu


Uzytkownik "Afoklala" <nospam@spam.no> napisal w wiadomosci
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> Op Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:24:58 +0200 schreef Wlodziu:
>
> > The most frustrating thing for me is reducing production by factories
(coal
> > mines, oil wells, etc.) while playing TTD.
> > Is there any chance to control it?
> > I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly
reduce
> > production:(
> >
> Well, it is realistic, isn't it? Sometimes accidents happen, mismanagement
> occurs, so it's only fair that factories aren't 100% reliable.
>
> -- 
> Jan Willem from Odijk, Netherlands
> jw dot van dot dormolen at hccnet dot nl
>
> New to this newsgroup? Please read the Frequently Asked
> Questions (FAQ) at <http://www.tt-forums.net/faq/>. Thanks.
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Re: Factories Production
#27640
Author: Michael Blunck
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:34
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Wlodziu wrote:

> The most frustrating thing for me is reducing production by
> factories (coal mines, oil wells, etc.) while playing TTD.

Those aren´t "factories". Those are "primary industries". Factories are
"secondary industries". :^)

In fact, the feed rate of primary industries is set by random and its change
over time isn´t depending from transportation rates which only affect station
ratings, BTW.

> Is there any chance to control it?

No.

> I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly
> reduce production:(

Yeah ... Especially oil wells are set to decrease production when off-shore
deposits are beginning to appear.

Michael
Re: Factories Production
#27641
Author: Wlodziu
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:40
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> > I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly
> > reduce production:(
>
> Yeah ... Especially oil wells are set to decrease production when
off-shore
> deposits are beginning to appear.

When? I don't understand...


Wlodziu
Re: Factories Production
#27642
Author: SHADOW-XIII
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:05
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Ok, guys ... let me handle Wlodziu :)))))

> > > I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly
> > > reduce production:(
> >
> > Yeah ... Especially oil wells are set to decrease production when
> off-shore
> > deposits are beginning to appear.
>
> When? I don't understand...

Oil Wells (Oil na ziemi) znika ... nie wazne czy wywozisz czy nie ... poniewaz zamierzenie twórcy bylo przeniesienie oleju na wode,
tam tez powinny sie z czasem pojawiac Oil Rigs

co do innych "primary industries" to wszystko jest losowe ... szansa na wzrost produkcji jest nieznacznie wyzsza gdy wywozisz
wiekszosc towaru ... jesli nie wywozisz lub malo wywozisz to wieksza jest szansa na spadek produkcji .. ale wszystko jest losowe
Re: Factories Production
#27643
Author: Wlodziu
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:20
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Sorry to all for using Polish language, but it's the simplest way for me to
describe SHADOW-XIII my point.


Użytkownik "SHADOW-XIII" <sNhOaSdPoAwM@onet.pl> napisał w wiadomości
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> Ok, guys ... let me handle Wlodziu :)))))
>
> > > > I hold transported % above 80 or 90 and still some of them suddenly
> > > > reduce production:(
> > >
> > > Yeah ... Especially oil wells are set to decrease production when
> > off-shore
> > > deposits are beginning to appear.
> >
> > When? I don't understand...
>
> Oil Wells (Oil na ziemi) znika ... nie wazne czy wywozisz czy nie ...
poniewaz zamierzenie twórcy bylo przeniesienie oleju na wode,
> tam tez powinny sie z czasem pojawiac Oil Rigs
>
> co do innych "primary industries" to wszystko jest losowe ... szansa na
wzrost produkcji jest nieznacznie wyzsza gdy wywozisz
> wiekszosc towaru ... jesli nie wywozisz lub malo wywozisz to wieksza jest
szansa na spadek produkcji .. ale wszystko jest losowe
>
Tak, zauwazylem ze z Oil Wells dzieje sie cos gorszego niz z pozostalymi,
ale to jakos ostatnio (wydaje mi sie ze przed patchem 2.0 tego nie bylo).
Nie wiedzialem ze ma to cos wspolnego z Oil Rigs, dzieki za info, ale
niestety Oil Rigs jakos niewiele sie pokazuje:(

Ale nie dlatego rozpoczalem ta rozmowe, wiem jak TTD dziala, gram od kilku
lat. Chodzi mi o to ze to strasznie wkurzajace jest kiedy zbudujesz
sobie wielka infrastrukture a potem nagle spada Ci produkcja i dupa blada.
Ratuje sie zawsze savem, ale to nie jest najlepsze rozwiazanie...
Pomyslalem wiec sobie, ze skoro PATCH zmienia wiele mniej znaczacych
szczegolow, mozna by sie zabrac wkoncu za to.
Ale nie bylem pewny czy czasem ktorys z przelacznikow juz za to nie
odpowiada, stad moje pytania.
"stableindustry on" mnie nie satysfakcjonuje.

Komu mam zglosic propozycje nowego przelacznika w PATCHu?
Z gory dzieki za pomoc!
POZDRAWIAM

Wlodziu
Re: Factories Production
#27639
Author: Afoklala
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:26
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Op Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:23:56 +0200 schreef Wlodziu:

> I agree it's a part of realism, but let's be honest, TTD isn't simulator!
> It's a game to have really good fun, but this feature damage everything...

Well, some people like realism. I do. I tend to not use ttdpatch features
which 'spoil' the realism. I never use cheats either.
Besides, this element brings a random component into the game, which, IMHO,
is good. If everything is totally predictable, it damages the gameplay for
me. (Of course, SOME things should be predictable...)
 
> Can I turn it off? Maybe it could be a new switch in next TTD Patch version?
> The best solution could be reward high % of transported goods (above 80)
> by increasing production of the factory and punish low % of transported
> (below 60)
> by reducing production.
> Ofcourse it shoud concerns only those factories which are using by players.
> What do you think about it Josef??

Josef is away on holidays, so you should ask this again in two weeks time.

-- 
Jan Willem from Odijk, Netherlands
jw dot van dot dormolen at hccnet dot nl

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Re: Factories Production
#27644
Author: SHADOW-XIII
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:23
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> Tak, zauwazylem ze z Oil Wells dzieje sie cos gorszego niz z pozostalymi,
> ale to jakos ostatnio (wydaje mi sie ze przed patchem 2.0 tego nie bylo).
> Nie wiedzialem ze ma to cos wspolnego z Oil Rigs, dzieki za info, ale
> niestety Oil Rigs jakos niewiele sie pokazuje:(

raczej działało zawsze tak samo

> Ale nie dlatego rozpoczalem ta rozmowe, wiem jak TTD dziala, gram od kilku
> lat. Chodzi mi o to ze to strasznie wkurzajace jest kiedy zbudujesz
> sobie wielka infrastrukture a potem nagle spada Ci produkcja i dupa blada.
> Ratuje sie zawsze savem, ale to nie jest najlepsze rozwiazanie...
> Pomyslalem wiec sobie, ze skoro PATCH zmienia wiele mniej znaczacych
> szczegolow, mozna by sie zabrac wkoncu za to.
> Ale nie bylem pewny czy czasem ktorys z przelacznikow juz za to nie
> odpowiada, stad moje pytania.
> "stableindustry on" mnie nie satysfakcjonuje.

on zmienia to ze poprostu nie zamykane są "industry" ... te które działają normalnie (a Oil Wells nie dziala normalnie) pozatrym
dziala to tylko z Economy: Steady (w ustawieniach)

> Komu mam zglosic propozycje nowego przelacznika w PATCHu?

to juz bylo zglaszane setki razy :) ale jesli chcesz modyfikować fabryki w TTD to polecam TTDAlter (nie dlugo wychodzi wersja 4.2
która pozwoli modifkiować nawet miasta i budyniki w nich)

> Z gory dzieki za pomoc!
> POZDRAWIAM

polecam także www.tt-forums.net jako skarbnice wszelkiej wiedzy :) (język angielski)
zapraszam na gg wrazie czego jeden-cztery-szesc-piec-siedem-dziewiec-dziewiec :)))

Pozdrawiam
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