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Article #28161Re: DB Set version 0.8 released
From: Boudewijn Dijkstra
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:02
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:02
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"Michael Blunck" <michael.blunck@ewetel.net> schreef in bericht news:32ohdcF3oj27bU1@individual.net... > Boudewijn Dijkstra wrote: > > [sprite limit exceeded?] > >> There is one problem though, because in temperate climate and with >> this newgrf.cfg [...] >> >> newgrf/elrailsw.grf >> newgrf/signalsw.grf >> newgrf/trkfoundw.grf >> newgrf/canalsw.grf >> newgrf/newshipsw.grf >> newgrf/newstatsw.grf >> newgrf/arcticsetw.grf >> newgrf/dbsetw.grf >> newgrf/tempsetw.grf >> newgrf/cargosetw.grf >> newgrf/dbsetxlw.grf >> newgrf/tropicstw.grf >> newgrf/LongBusesw.grf >> newgrf/McTrucksw.grf >> newgrf/ScaniaTrucksw.grf >> newgrf/VolvoTrucksw.grf >> newgrf/SpitzerTrucksw.grf >> newgrf/NavistarTrucksw.grf > >> I get an error message that NavistarTrucksw cannot be loaded due to >> too many sprites. > > Well, in temperate climate, not all of those .grfs are active: > > - newgrf/arcticsetw.grf > - newgrf/tropicstw.grf Yes, they show up with a red square in the newgrf window. >> The DB set XL readme advises to include dbsetw >> and tempsetw in its examples. > > Nope. It does not. quote from dbxl_readme.html: "[...] it´s best to have this order of .grf entries in "newgrf.cfg": ... newgrf/dbset.grf newgrf/tempset.grf newgrf/cargoset.grf newgrf/dbsetxl.grf ..." That looks to me like advice. Advice to include something. > In fact the DB set XL disables dbset and tempset when active, hence: > > - newgrf/dbsetw.grf > - newgrf/tempsetw.grf Tempsetw has a red square, but dbsetw doesn't. According to the newgrf windows, it still has 1364 sprites active. > Elrails, signals, trkfound and newstats have only very few sprites active. > In addition all sprites from the cargoset except its truck sprites are > overridden by the DB set XL, resulting in even less active sprites. > > In conclusion, from the top half of the list, only the Newships and the DB > setXL are fully active, first with some hundred sprites (I don´t know > exactly the number, it´s an old file) the second w. 4608 active sprites, > roughly. > > All in all, there´s a limit of 11,483 active sprites. > >> That worked fine, until I added the long road vehicle grfs. > > Yeah. It´s a known fact that George´s .grfs are using sprites rather > excessively. > >> [...] But now I am worried that something from dbsetw will be missing, >> although I couldn't prove that yet. > > No worry. If you´re using the XL version you can delete the dbsetw > completely. It´s the older version for use with the beta patch 2.0r1. Thanks for making that clear. > You wouldn´t need the cargoset either because the DB set XL has its own > freight cars so the cargoset will only be used for its trucks. OTOH, if > you´re using only the longvehicles´ trucks you could disable or delete the > cargoset too. Possible, but not desirable, because I like to play early games and the long vehicles take a lot of time to enter the stage. BTW: strange that before 1900 there were lots of iron bridges in the real world, but in 1921 there are only wooden bridges in TT world. > Play around with the grf status window by enabling/disabling .grfs. It´ll > tell you how many sprites are active at the moment. Hmm, foolish me. I didn't even notice the sprite count until your message.
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