🚀 go-pugleaf

Op 21-1-2010 13:49, neppie schreef:
>>>>> I refuse to purchase Blu-Ray. It will go the way of the BetaMax.
>>>>
>>>> BetaMax was defeated by VHS. What's going to make Blu-Ray go the way
>>>> of the dodo? Blu-Ray already beat out HD-DVD and other formats
>>>> (Holographic Versatile Disc for one) haven't even made to stores in
>>>> Europe or the USA. CBHD's reportedly are available in China or other
>>>> Asian countries.
>>>
>>> Something better is going to sweep the market eventually - maybe HVD,
>>> maybe not? HD-DVD naturally went bye bye because people silly enough to
>>> buy Blu-Ray DID.
>>
>> That one fries my brain. There's something illogical about it. The
>> demise of HD-DVD was caused by the silly people that bought BR???
>> Surely it's because of the people that bought neither, keeping the
>> market too small.
>
> DVD is cheap, and people bought more of those than anything (naturally).
> BR and HD were more costly and required better equipment to play them.
> The people that could afford newer technology and more pricey movies
> opted for BR - don't ask me, they just did! I think BR was/is more
> trendy and more of a status thing. Ohh, look at my Blu-Ray collection,
> aren't I cool? Sort of thing.

You can see the difference on a 55 inch plasma flatscreen. You can even feel it, 
in you pocket. Still, you can often also see that a lot of people don't get the 
best out of their setup. They've spent all that money and they connect up their 
Blu-Ray with a analogue connection instead of HDMI. If they do buy an HDMI 
cable, they end up paying 10 to even a 100 times what they should.

Same thing with computers. End up spending thousands on a gaming rig and within 
two years it's "obsolete". It's too slow. Never mind the 20 toolbars and other 
crapware.

>>> People in this economy are sticking with good old DVD players and $5
>>> movie bins. By the time the market picks up, Blu-Ray will be something
>>> people will be looking up on wikipedia.
>>
>> The only problem is that Blu-Ray is in the PS3 and every big movie
>> release is on Blu-Ray. Often with added features. So hardcore movie
>> fans will go for Blu-Ray. Especially since you get to hold the movie
>> in your hands. A definite plus over streaming options.
>
> I have a collection of movies (purchased, not pirated) of over 700
> titles. I'd say that makes me a hardcore fan. Add to that my Netflix
> membership. I am not about to run out and buy a PS3 (more on that later)
> or any other type of player just to watch a movie. Any new release for
> BR is also released in DVD format, with most, if not all, of the same
> extras. The added features are usually extraneous BS. Furthermore, any
> new releases on DVD wind up on sale, and then in the next month are
> usually in a $5 bin at Wal-Mart or sold for 3 or 4 dollars at bargain
> outlets - not seeing that with BR of course. Until they stop releasing
> DVD altogether, I don't see BR taking over, just for the fact that a
> movie junkie will take the cheapest fix when possible, and realizes that
> not ALL movies have to have a bunch of jazz. There are VERY FEW that I
> will buy on or around the release date. That's my rationale, anyway. =)

I've seen Blu-Rays as cheap as 10 euros, just a few months after release, not 
many though. Most DVD bargain bin stuff should go straight to the regular bin. 
There does seem to be a market for fans that want all that extra stuff. Why 
would people otherwise buy those collector's editions or two disc sets? Though 
I've seen people buy the two disc set Nemo and wonder why the cartoon is only on 
disc one.

It'll be a while before BR surpasses DVD. But I'm pretty sure it will happen, 
unless streaming/digital downloads or something along those lines really takes 
off. In the USA Netflix does seem a threat to Blu-Ray. Over here I don't see 
that happening.

For now BR is only for hardcore fans that want every extra, people that want the 
highest quality and people that have money to burn. That's not a majority. But 
it took DVD and CD years to get on top. As a matter of fact, I think the 
possibility of copying discs was what put those format on top. The moment people 
at home have blu-ray burners in their PC's and can copy those discs that market 
may actually take off.

> And, I am not buying a PS3 until they make it completely backwards
> compatible with ALL of my titles, damn it. I still have my original PS
> (and my yummy gameshark for it) and a PS2 - neither of which I purchased
> immediately either. AAMOF, I returned my first PS and bought a Sega
> Genesis/32X instead. The guy at the store thought I was nuts, but it was
> slow as molasses in January! Then they fixed them, so I bought a new one.
>
>
Never be on the bleeding edge, I agree. At least let it sit in the market for a 
year. If nothing weird (like 360's red ring of death) happens, you could go for 
it. PC parts the same thing. The kinks still aren't out of solid state drives. 
And they're still to expensive for the amount of data they can hold.

Still, the PS3 was a good choice if you wanted a Blu-Ray player and liked the 
idea of playing BR movies (Netflix also, I think). But now you've got BR players 
at a third of the price.

I wonder when the next generation of consoles is announced...

-- 
Danny.