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Op 1-1-2010 6:29, ervaqre schreef:
>>> Ha! You are mixing up container formats with video and audio formats
>>> here! A .flv file can contain video encoded with h.264 and audio with
>>> mp3 for example. So your player needs to be able to 1) know how to
>>> handle the container format, and 2) be able to decode both the video
>>> and audio the file contains.
>>
>> Wasn't it originally or even predominantly used with a codec those flash guys
>> bought from somewhere? Wikipedia also mentions this as a h.263 like codec.
>
> Yes, first they used a codec from Sorensen and afterwards from On2.
> Since H.264 is also supported these days, more and more websites
> offering video use that. Now if only online video playback as proposed
> in HTML5 would take off, we could do without Flash altogether. I would
> cherish that day, because I hate Flash with all my heart.

Since you're the computer expert that knows such a lot about streaming codex, do 
you know a way to play silverlight without installing silverlight on a Windows 
box? I'd like to play stuff from nederland24.nl without having to put another 
plugin in my Firefox. Flash is quite enough, thank you. Putting Moonlight on a 
Ubuntu machine is a bit too much work, unless I'm really going the HTPC route.

The nederland24.nl website mentions you can play the content in an alternative 
media player. It neglects to say how or what media player though, not to mention 
where to get it. Or what link to put in to VLC, that would be nice too.

>>> Container formats like mp4 offer nice additions though, such as
>>> multiple audio tracks in different languages, chapters or subtitles.
>>
>> At any rate, try and find a standalone DVD player that will play all those
>> weirdo formats. You won't. Only a HTPC will.
>
> You'd have to be either a weirdo or a noob to buy a standalone DVD
> player these days!

Or on a tight budget. I've seen the first sub 100 euro Blu Ray player in the 
Belgian Kruidvat. It's just a tad over 100 in the Netherlands.

>>> Even though I don't like it myself (it used to have problems with
>>> embedded subs used in a lot of anime), it is what I recommend to
>>> everybody else.
>>>
>> I agree that embedded subs will slow VLC down way too much. Yet SRT's and dvd's
>> play fine. So it's fine for 99.99% of users. And it doesn't mess with your sound
>> settings like Microsoft's media player does.
>
> Quite a coincidence that I actually saw somebody using VLC to play a
> ..mkv file with embedded SSA subs earlier this morning. After opening
> the file VLC said it was busy building the fontcache. When that was
> done however, everything worked perfectly. Quite a difference from the
> VLC Player a few years ago that would show the letters all over the
> screen in random order.
>
> It's still beyond me why people would use any MS product!
>
VLC used to make a piece of interactive art of MKV subs. Cool.
MS is the standard. It is actually hard to convince people to use another 
player. Even when they run into trouble with it. They just think the file is 
broken, not the player. It's actually easier to install VLC as quick as you can 
on a fresh system. Real noobs won't even know the difference when it handles all 
media files.

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