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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:53:30 +0000, Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:

> I have a Dell Pentium 3 with a Winfast A1808B 3D-video card
> with 128MB ram (on the video card).
> 
> When I try to play Doom 3, the graphics move jerkily instead of
> smoothly.
> 
> What would be the fix for this? Does my video card need to be
> upgraded?

Yes, upgrade the video card.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:50:28 -0500, Dan C
<youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:53:30 +0000, Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:
>
>> I have a Dell Pentium 3 with a Winfast A1808B 3D-video card
>> with 128MB ram (on the video card).
>> 
>> When I try to play Doom 3, the graphics move jerkily instead of
>> smoothly.
>> 
>> What would be the fix for this? Does my video card need to be
>> upgraded?
>
>Yes, upgrade the video card.

What would be a reasonable card to get?

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:40:57 +0000, Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:

>>> What would be the fix for this? Does my video card need to be
>>> upgraded?

>>Yes, upgrade the video card.
 
> What would be a reasonable card to get?

Pretty difficult to really answer that, because it depends what you want
to do with the machine.  If you want to play Doom3, I would recommend an
Nvidia 6600GT or 6800GT (about $150 and $275 respectively).  Personally,
I'm going to upgrade in a month or so, and going with an Nvidia 7800GT for
about $375, which will get me through the next couple of years worth of
new game releases.  It pays to get more than you think you need now, to
avoid having to keep upgrading so often.

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:27:57 -0500, Dan C
<youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:40:57 +0000, Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:
>
>>>> What would be the fix for this? Does my video card need to be
>>>> upgraded?
>
>>>Yes, upgrade the video card.
> 
>> What would be a reasonable card to get?
>
>Pretty difficult to really answer that, because it depends what you want
>to do with the machine.  If you want to play Doom3, I would recommend an
>Nvidia 6600GT or 6800GT (about $150 and $275 respectively).  Personally,
>I'm going to upgrade in a month or so, and going with an Nvidia 7800GT for
>about $375, which will get me through the next couple of years worth of
>new game releases.  It pays to get more than you think you need now, to
>avoid having to keep upgrading so often.

Thank you for your advice!

Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:27:57 -0500, Dan C
> <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:

>
> Thank you for your advice!

It wasn't good nor complete advice.  You said you have a Pentium III.  If I
recall correctly, the PIII stopped at 1Ghz.  The minimum recommended system
requirements for Doom3 was a 1.5 Ghz P4, 384 megs of RAM and a 64 meg video
card.

Here.  Read this http://www.techstuff.ca/archives/854.html

I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon 9200
Video Card.

The game calls for a min 64 meg card.  I have twice that and it still rns
jerky...
I guess Im stuck until I can afford a 256 meg card....
I haven't seen any feedback on an actual fix.. Only suggestions to go out
and spend more dough...



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> Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:27:57 -0500, Dan C
>> <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you for your advice!
>
> It wasn't good nor complete advice.  You said you have a Pentium III.
If
> I
> recall correctly, the PIII stopped at 1Ghz.  The minimum recommended
> system
> requirements for Doom3 was a 1.5 Ghz P4, 384 megs of RAM and a 64 meg
> video
> card.
>
> Here.  Read this http://www.techstuff.ca/archives/854.html
>
>


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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:00:03 -0500, Carl Senior Jr wrote:

> I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
> I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon 9200
> Video Card.

Your problem is the Radeon 9200.
 
> The game calls for a min 64 meg card.  I have twice that and it still rns
> jerky...

You have twice the minimum memory, but on a weak video card.

> I guess Im stuck until I can afford a 256 meg card....

You're still thinking wrong.  The amount of memory isn't the biggest
factor on a video card's performance.  The GPU is.  Again, the 9200 is
pretty weak by today's standards.

> I haven't seen any feedback on an actual fix.. Only suggestions to go
> out and spend more dough...

Well, yeah.  How else are you going to get a decent card?

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Doom3 is quite scalable, performance to hardware, without giving up TOO much 
detail and quality.

If you have middling level hardware, you can't expect to run the game with 
maxed out settings in higher resolutions and get smooth performance.

I have a pretty good setup for running Doom3 at even Ultra quality settings 
with resolution at 1024x768.   And, that's already a trade-off.   UpsetChaps 
have a tweak guide for Doom3.   You might want to have a look at that and 
follow their lead for the level of hardware you're using.
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Doom3/Doom3Guide.htm
Scroll down to 'Connection, framerate and Visual Tweaks' section.   The 
whole guide was a help to me for getting it playing well on a 3.0E gHz P4, 1 
gig of PC3200 in dual channel and Radeon 9800 Pro.

My rig is a different one now, AMD A64 X2 4800+, 2 gigs PC3200 in dual 
channel, 6800 GT.  Even with that, I can't run in Ultra Quality at 1280x1024 
and get smooth gameplay throughout.
McG.


"Carl Senior Jr" <csenior@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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>I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
> I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon 9200
> Video Card.
>
> The game calls for a min 64 meg card.  I have twice that and it still rns
> jerky...
> I guess Im stuck until I can afford a 256 meg card....
> I haven't seen any feedback on an actual fix.. Only suggestions to go out
> and spend more dough...
>
>
>
> "twobirds" <notareal@eaddy.com> wrote in message
> news:PKCdnSm_N9MiW_DenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@bresnan.com...
>> Mark Buckles/Harlan Labs wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:27:57 -0500, Dan C
>>> <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your advice!
>>
>> It wasn't good nor complete advice.  You said you have a Pentium III.
> If
>> I
>> recall correctly, the PIII stopped at 1Ghz.  The minimum recommended
>> system
>> requirements for Doom3 was a 1.5 Ghz P4, 384 megs of RAM and a 64 meg
>> video
>> card.
>>
>> Here.  Read this http://www.techstuff.ca/archives/854.html
>>
>>
>
>
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So suggest a decent card  Mr President...

thnx

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:00:03 -0500, Carl Senior Jr wrote:
>
>> I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
>> I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon
9200
>> Video Card.
>
> Your problem is the Radeon 9200.
>
>> The game calls for a min 64 meg card.  I have twice that and it still
rns
>> jerky...
>
> You have twice the minimum memory, but on a weak video card.
>
>> I guess Im stuck until I can afford a 256 meg card....
>
> You're still thinking wrong.  The amount of memory isn't the biggest
> factor on a video card's performance.  The GPU is.  Again, the 9200 is
> pretty weak by today's standards.
>
>> I haven't seen any feedback on an actual fix.. Only suggestions to go
>> out and spend more dough...
>
> Well, yeah.  How else are you going to get a decent card?
>
> --
> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> Linux Registered User #327951
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On 12/11/05 9:24 AM, Dan C wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:00:03 -0500, Carl Senior Jr wrote:
> 
>>I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
>>I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon 9200
>>Video Card.
> 
> Your problem is the Radeon 9200.

Are you sure? I have a comparable system (same RAM, 2.26GHz P4) with a
64MB Radeon 8500DV and it's playable. It's at 640x480, mind you, but I
wouldn't call it jerky. Just grainy...

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:56:37 -0500, Chris Odorjan wrote:

>> Your problem is the Radeon 9200.
 
> Are you sure? I have a comparable system (same RAM, 2.26GHz P4) with a
> 64MB Radeon 8500DV and it's playable. It's at 640x480, mind you, but I
> wouldn't call it jerky. Just grainy...

Yes, I'm sure.

Games like this are not meant to be played at 640x480.

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On 12/11/05 11:26 PM, Dan C wrote:

> Yes, I'm sure.
> 
> Games like this are not meant to be played at 640x480.

Bah! Back in my day we played Doom at 320x200! In low detail mode! And
we liked it! And we had to walk uphill in the snow to get the shareware
version on floppy disks! That right, diskettes! Uphill, both ways! And
in bare feet, too!

:-D

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:02:07 -0500, Chris Odorjan wrote:

>> Games like this are not meant to be played at 640x480.
 
> Bah! Back in my day we played Doom at 320x200! In low detail mode! And
> we liked it! And we had to walk uphill in the snow to get the shareware
> version on floppy disks! That right, diskettes! Uphill, both ways! And
> in bare feet, too!

:-)

So did I.  If you'll read my previous post again, it said "games like
this"...  which is referring to Doom3, not Doom.

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Dan C is right. Your 9200 is too old and too slow. If you're on a budget, it 
runs fine at 1024x768 on a 9800 Pro but if you can afford it go for 
something more modern like an X700.

"Carl Senior Jr" <csenior@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> So suggest a decent card  Mr President...
>
> thnx
>
> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.12.11.14.24.12.11518@invalid.lan...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:00:03 -0500, Carl Senior Jr wrote:
>>
>>> I have the same problem..  Jerky Video
>>> I have a 2.1 Gig processor with 512 megs of ram and a 128 meg Radeon
> 9200
>>> Video Card.
>>
>> Your problem is the Radeon 9200.
>>
>>> The game calls for a min 64 meg card.  I have twice that and it still
> rns
>>> jerky...
>>
>> You have twice the minimum memory, but on a weak video card.
>>
>>> I guess Im stuck until I can afford a 256 meg card....
>>
>> You're still thinking wrong.  The amount of memory isn't the biggest
>> factor on a video card's performance.  The GPU is.  Again, the 9200 is
>> pretty weak by today's standards.
>>
>>> I haven't seen any feedback on an actual fix.. Only suggestions to go
>>> out and spend more dough...
>>
>> Well, yeah.  How else are you going to get a decent card?
>>
>> --
>> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
>> Linux Registered User #327951
>>
>
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