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On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:

>Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough.  AMD A64 
>X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I think the AMD *IS* 
>worth the money.
>McG. 
>
>
>  
>
What did you read? 
I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX SLI 
at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start. 
I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that I'd 
almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the future yet.

-- 
"I don't feel tardy"

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
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> On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>
>> Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough.  AMD
>> A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I think the
>> AMD *IS* worth the money.
>> McG.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> What did you read?
> I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
> SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
> I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that I'd
> almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
> Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
> future yet.

The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.

I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939 mobo, 
AGP, nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the lowly eVGA 
6800 GT in it :)
Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of 
course ;)
McG. 

"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> "Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
> news:SGVKe.165$A%3.22@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
>> On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>
>>> Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough.  AMD
>>> A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I think the
>>> AMD *IS* worth the money.
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> What did you read?
>> I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
>> SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
>> I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that I'd
>> almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
>> Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
>> future yet.
>
> The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.
>
> I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939 mobo, AGP, 
> nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the lowly eVGA 6800 GT 
> in it :)
> Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of course 
> ;)
> McG.
>

   The nice thing about the 939 socket is that it allows a lot of growth in 
CPU power.  From A64 3000+ up to the FX-57.  And it you get a 939 socket MB 
that also has Duel Core support it will take you even further with the whole 
x2 series.  Even though there are some questions about the nForce 4 chip 
set, if I was looking to upgrade from a previous generation Intel or AMD 
chipset MB  right now, that's probably the path I would take - maybe with an 
Asus A8N SLI Premium.  That looks to be the most future proof at the moment, 
for both CPU and Video.

   So many choices - so little cash ;-)


Bob 

On 8/20/2005 5:39 AM rjdriver brightened our day with:

>"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:lLdLe.119810$gL1.106437@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>  
>
>>"Inglo" <ioo@??.¿¿¿> wrote in message
>>news:SGVKe.165$A%3.22@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
>>    
>>
>>>On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough.  AMD
>>>>A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I think the
>>>>AMD *IS* worth the money.
>>>>McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>What did you read?
>>>I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
>>>SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
>>>I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that I'd
>>>almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
>>>Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
>>>future yet.
>>>      
>>>
>>The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.
>>
>>I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939 mobo, AGP, 
>>nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the lowly eVGA 6800 GT 
>>in it :)
>>Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of course 
>>;)
>>McG.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>   The nice thing about the 939 socket is that it allows a lot of growth in 
>CPU power.  From A64 3000+ up to the FX-57.  And it you get a 939 socket MB 
>that also has Duel Core support it will take you even further with the whole 
>x2 series.  Even though there are some questions about the nForce 4 chip 
>set, if I was looking to upgrade from a previous generation Intel or AMD 
>chipset MB  right now, that's probably the path I would take - maybe with an 
>Asus A8N SLI Premium.  That looks to be the most future proof at the moment, 
>for both CPU and Video.
>
>   So many choices - so little cash ;-)
>
>
>Bob 
>
>
>  
>
It'd be nice to buy a motherboard that holds that promise.  It seems 
that for the last several years, the worthwhile choice when upgrading 
has been a new mobo/cpu combination.  I've had an Athlon XP 2500 and an 
nForce2 for 2 years now, while possible, while possible, it's never 
seemed remotely worth it to upgrade the CPU on it, there just isn't 
enough difference between (especially an overclocked) 2500 and a 3200.


-- 
"I don't feel tardy"

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message 
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> On 8/20/2005 5:39 AM rjdriver brightened our day with:
>
>>"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>news:lLdLe.119810$gL1.106437@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>>"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
>>>news:SGVKe.165$A%3.22@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
>>>
>>>>On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough.  AMD
>>>>>A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I think the
>>>>>AMD *IS* worth the money.
>>>>>McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>What did you read?
>>>>I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
>>>>SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
>>>>I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that I'd
>>>>almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
>>>>Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
>>>>future yet.
>>>>
>>>The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.
>>>
>>>I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939 mobo, 
>>>AGP, nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the lowly eVGA 
>>>6800 GT in it :)
>>>Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of course 
>>>;)
>>>McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   The nice thing about the 939 socket is that it allows a lot of growth 
>> in CPU power.  From A64 3000+ up to the FX-57.  And it you get a 939 
>> socket MB that also has Duel Core support it will take you even further 
>> with the whole x2 series.  Even though there are some questions about the 
>> nForce 4 chip set, if I was looking to upgrade from a previous generation 
>> Intel or AMD chipset MB  right now, that's probably the path I would 
>> take - maybe with an Asus A8N SLI Premium.  That looks to be the most 
>> future proof at the moment, for both CPU and Video.
>>
>>   So many choices - so little cash ;-)
>>
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
> It'd be nice to buy a motherboard that holds that promise.  It seems that 
> for the last several years, the worthwhile choice when upgrading has been 
> a new mobo/cpu combination.  I've had an Athlon XP 2500 and an nForce2 for 
> 2 years now, while possible, while possible, it's never seemed remotely 
> worth it to upgrade the CPU on it, there just isn't enough difference 
> between (especially an overclocked) 2500 and a 3200.


   I had the XP 2500 also, and it seemed like forever before the price on 
the 3200+ came down under 200, but I finally got one.  You're right, the 
difference is small, especially if you had the 2500 overclocked, but it's 
noticable.  And you can overclock the 3200 also, although probably not as 
far.  I figured it was the fastest CPU I could get for this MB, so I might 
as well grab one before they disappear entirely.


Bob

"rjdriver" <rjdrivers@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lLdLe.119810$gL1.106437@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
>> news:SGVKe.165$A%3.22@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
>>> On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>>
>>>> Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough. AMD 
>>>> A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I
>>>> think the AMD *IS* worth the money.
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What did you read?
>>> I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
>>> SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
>>> I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that
>>> I'd almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
>>> Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
>>> future yet.
>>
>> The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.
>>
>> I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939
>> mobo, AGP, nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the
>> lowly eVGA 6800 GT in it :)
>> Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of
>> course ;)
>> McG.
>>
>
>   The nice thing about the 939 socket is that it allows a lot of
> growth in CPU power.  From A64 3000+ up to the FX-57.  And it you get
> a 939 socket MB that also has Duel Core support it will take you even
> further with the whole x2 series.  Even though there are some
> questions about the nForce 4 chip set, if I was looking to upgrade
> from a previous generation Intel or AMD chipset MB  right now, that's
> probably the path I would take - maybe with an Asus A8N SLI Premium. 
> That looks to be the most future proof at the moment, for both CPU
> and Video.
>   So many choices - so little cash ;-)
>
>
> Bob

I guess I started at the top.  X2 4800+ and GA K8NS Ultra 939 mobo, NF3 
Ultra chipset.  $985 for the chip, $145 for the mobo.  In a few months, 
I might pick up a PCI-e mobo and vid card.  For right now, Far Cry 64 
bit freakin ROCKS at 1280x1024 maxed out everything!!!!
Installing DOom3 now....
McG. 

"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
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> On 8/20/2005 5:39 AM rjdriver brightened our day with:
>
>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:lLdLe.119810$gL1.106437@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>
>>> "Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message
>>> news:SGVKe.165$A%3.22@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8/11/2005 3:25 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Reading up on it, a regular A64, even 4000+, isn't good enough. 
>>>>> AMD A64 X2 4800+.  should be good for games.  At this time, I
>>>>> think the AMD *IS* worth the money.
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What did you read?
>>>> I see an X2 4800+ runs for close to $1000, paired with two 7800 GTX
>>>> SLI at $600 a piece.  I suppose that would be a good start.
>>>> I can't imagine how that could be worth the money.  If I had that
>>>> I'd almost certainly need a $2500 monitor to go with it.
>>>> Dual/multiple cores are the future.  I'm just not ready for the
>>>> future yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The recent AMD/Intel dual core stress test over at Toms Hardware.
>>>
>>> I've ordered the stuff I want.  For right now, it will be a 939
>>> mobo, AGP, nForce3 Ultra chipset, 2 gigs PC3200 and I'll use the
>>> lowly eVGA 6800 GT in it :)
>>> Steve, know what I'm gonna call it?  My X-Box!!!!  After the X2 of
>>> course ;)
>>> McG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   The nice thing about the 939 socket is that it allows a lot of
>> growth in CPU power.  From A64 3000+ up to the FX-57.  And it you
>> get a 939 socket MB that also has Duel Core support it will take you
>> even further with the whole x2 series.  Even though there are some
>> questions about the nForce 4 chip set, if I was looking to upgrade
>> from a previous generation Intel or AMD chipset MB  right now,
>> that's probably the path I would take - maybe with an Asus A8N SLI
>> Premium.  That looks to be the most future proof at the moment, for
>> both CPU and Video. So many choices - so little cash ;-)
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
> It'd be nice to buy a motherboard that holds that promise.  It seems
> that for the last several years, the worthwhile choice when upgrading
> has been a new mobo/cpu combination.  I've had an Athlon XP 2500 and
> an nForce2 for 2 years now, while possible, while possible, it's never
> seemed remotely worth it to upgrade the CPU on it, there just isn't
> enough difference between (especially an overclocked) 2500 and a 3200.

I dig that.  But I haven't built an AMD box since a K6-2 350/400!  Going 
from the P4 3.0e with 2 gigs DDR400 to this X2 4800+ with 2 gigs DDR400 
is like stepping up from a P3 933 to the P4 3.0E
The P4 3.0E ain't a slouch by any means.  I do above average for the 
CPU/Vid in the 3DMark benches.  But this  X2 slams it.
Gotta go get some more games installed on it and run some benches!
McG.