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In article <1994Jan5...@camins.camosun.bc.ca> alum...@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes:

   I'm looking for any Doom editors (map, graphics, sound, etc, NOT 
   character). Are there any out there, and if so, where? L8r.

						   --> Max <--
the readme file distributed with the game states that ID is asking
that "modified" versions of DOOM not be distributed.  Any editors you
find will most likely written by fellow players.  I suppose if you
don't let your levels out, noone will know, let alone care, but I
personally have too much respect for the original programmers to mess
with what they've created...  Just my 2cents worth...
--
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Adam A. Johnson                                     Adam.J...@uvm.edu   
             "Facts are negotiable, opinions aren't"

In article <AJOHNSON.9...@moose.uvm.edu> ajoh...@moose.uvm.edu (Adam A. Johnson) writes:
>In article <1994Jan5...@camins.camosun.bc.ca> alum...@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes:
>
>   I'm looking for any Doom editors (map, graphics, sound, etc, NOT 
>   character). Are there any out there, and if so, where? L8r.
>
>						   --> Max <--
>the readme file distributed with the game states that ID is asking
>that "modified" versions of DOOM not be distributed.  Any editors you
>find will most likely written by fellow players.  I suppose if you
>don't let your levels out, noone will know, let alone care, but I
>personally have too much respect for the original programmers to mess
>with what they've created...  Just my 2cents worth...
>--
>========================================================================
>Adam A. Johnson                                     Adam.J...@uvm.edu   
>             "Facts are negotiable, opinions aren't"


you read it wrong *dude* !!! ...
read it again before spreading wrong rumors .... people like you make it 
hard for real *HACKERS* to make good utilities (and make it available).

In a more common term , you SUCK big time ...


				Walt

In article <wdaoCJB...@netcom.com>, Walter DAO <wd...@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <AJOHNSON.9...@moose.uvm.edu> ajoh...@moose.uvm.edu (Adam A. Johnson) writes:
>>In article <1994Jan5...@camins.camosun.bc.ca> alum...@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes:
>>
>>   I'm looking for any Doom editors (map, graphics, sound, etc, NOT 
>>   character). Are there any out there, and if so, where? L8r.
>>
>>						   --> Max <--
>>the readme file distributed with the game states that ID is asking
>>that "modified" versions of DOOM not be distributed.  Any editors you
>>find will most likely written by fellow players.  I suppose if you
>>don't let your levels out, noone will know, let alone care, but I
>>personally have too much respect for the original programmers to mess
>>with what they've created...  Just my 2cents worth...
>>--
>>========================================================================
>>Adam A. Johnson                                     Adam.J...@uvm.edu   
>>             "Facts are negotiable, opinions aren't"
>
>
>you read it wrong *dude* !!! ...
>read it again before spreading wrong rumors .... people like you make it 
>hard for real *HACKERS* to make good utilities (and make it available).
>
>In a more common term , you SUCK big time ...
>
>
>				Walt

     "id Software respectfully requests that you do not modify the
      levels for the shareware version of DOOM.  We feel that the
      distribution of new levels that work with the shareware version
      of DOOM will lessen a potential user's incentive to purchase the
      registered version."

In what way is this an misinterpretation?  Real hackers?  From the sounds
of your attitude, I doubt you could hack "Hello, World!" in less than
fifty lines.  Consider reaching into the clue bag once you hit puberty.

-Matt
-- 
"The hen is the egg's way of making another egg."  - Samuel Butler

In article <2gmpst$p...@ghostwheel.bga.com>, xo...@bga.com (Matt Bush) writes:
>In article <wdaoCJB...@netcom.com>, Walter DAO <wd...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>In article <AJOHNSON.9...@moose.uvm.edu> ajoh...@moose.uvm.edu (Adam A. Johnson) writes:
>>>In article <1994Jan5...@camins.camosun.bc.ca> alum...@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes:
>>>
>>>   I'm looking for any Doom editors (map, graphics, sound, etc, NOT 
>>>   character). Are there any out there, and if so, where? L8r.
>>>
>>>						   --> Max <--
>>>the readme file distributed with the game states that ID is asking
>>>that "modified" versions of DOOM not be distributed.  Any editors you
>>>find will most likely written by fellow players.  I suppose if you
>>>don't let your levels out, noone will know, let alone care, but I
>>>personally have too much respect for the original programmers to mess
>>>with what they've created...  Just my 2cents worth...
>>>--
>>>========================================================================
>>>Adam A. Johnson                                     Adam.J...@uvm.edu   
>>>             "Facts are negotiable, opinions aren't"
>>
>>
>>you read it wrong *dude* !!! ...
>>read it again before spreading wrong rumors .... people like you make it 
>>hard for real *HACKERS* to make good utilities (and make it available).
>>
>>In a more common term , you SUCK big time ...
>>
>>
>>				Walt
>
>     "id Software respectfully requests that you do not modify the
>      levels for the shareware version of DOOM.  We feel that the
>      distribution of new levels that work with the shareware version
>      of DOOM will lessen a potential user's incentive to purchase the
>      registered version."
>
>In what way is this an misinterpretation?  Real hackers?  From the sounds
>of your attitude, I doubt you could hack "Hello, World!" in less than
>fifty lines.  Consider reaching into the clue bag once you hit puberty.
>
>-Matt
>-- 
>"The hen is the egg's way of making another egg."  - Samuel Butle

	That guy was wrong in the first place.  He didn't CLARIFY that ID
SPECIFICALLY REQUEST THAT THE SHAREWARE VERSION is not to be modified.  He was
saying that NOTHING CAN BE MODIFIED PERIOD.

-Zelpheri

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In article <2gmpst$p...@ghostwheel.bga.com>, xo...@bga.com (Matt Bush) writes...

>>> the readme file distributed with the game states that ID is asking
>>> that "modified" versions of DOOM not be distributed.  Any editors you

>> you read it wrong *dude* !!! ...
>> read it again before spreading wrong rumors .... people like you make it 
>> hard for real *HACKERS* to make good utilities (and make it available).
>
>     "id Software respectfully requests that you do not modify the
>      levels for the shareware version of DOOM.  We feel that the
                      ^^^^^^^^^
>      distribution of new levels that work with the shareware version
>      of DOOM will lessen a potential user's incentive to purchase the
>      registered version."
> 
> In what way is this an misinterpretation?  Real hackers?  From the sounds

I believe that ID is asking us to limit our editors to editing episodes 2
and 3.  However, ID would not like us to distribute any original code (this
has always been true).  Therefore, 

Editors for Episode 1: BAD
Editors for Episodes 2&3: GOOD
"Modified" Versions of Doom: BAD

I think these are very fair limitations and I applaud ID for putting the
consumer first!

Just MY $.02 (GST not included)

Drab Pickle Tray, et.al.