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"Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 01:27:19 GMT, "McGrandpa"
> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>> news:VX%Ud.20449$uV.5773@fe06.lga
>>> I don't have that kind of luck.  I have never seen a "perfect" lcd.
>>> Every single one I have looked at I have found a dead pixel or stuck
>>> pixel or bright pixel or something along those lines.  My secondary
>>> monitor on this computer is a 15" lcd with one bright red pixel in
>>> the upper right corner, 1/4" from the top and 1" from the right.
>>
>> That would tick me off.  If it had one right IN the corner, then a
>> fine point magic marker fixes it somewhat.  Normally, I seem to be
>> the luckless one.  Bought two bad Ti4600's when they first came out.
>> Went to ATI for a bit.  Back with Nvidia for a bit now.
>> Funny, you don't see LCD's on display in the stores with dead pixels.
>> With all the problems I've been hearing on people getting new LCD's
>> with bad pixels, I think I'll be looking at the thing work IN the
>> store before I pay for it.
>
> There aren't many manufacturers that have a zero defect tolerance -
> usually, the manufacturers refer their monitors as being Class II,
> which allows for a few defective pixels.  As long as they keep
> referring to this obsolete standard, there isn't really anything that
> can be done.
>
> I'm sure you've already read this article, but for those who haven't:
> http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20030319/index.html
>
>>  Cause they have a rule, x number of bad ones to
>> return it.  As far as I'm concerned, one is too many.
>
> The standard was really meant for small LCDs: 640x480 or 800x600.
> Even then, the standard still feels to be a little lenient.

I've read that now, all of it.  Yeah, I'd seen it before and just 
skimmed over it.  But with the flat panel displays becoming much more 
commonplace  and a lot less expensive, it seems the customer is going to 
be getting dumped on pretty hard if the customer doesn't do something to 
protect themselves.  Like try to ensure they are getting what they want 
before putting their money on it.   For me, this means no online or mail 
orders, hands on the unit in operation first.  I didn't do this with any 
of the three I bought.  My last one I got about a year ago now.  I don't 
know how I got so lucky.   Three LCD panels with 0 'defective' pixels. 
I see by the standard that many things are taken into account, but still 
the bottom line is a bad dot is a bad dot.  You can see any of them if 
they're anywhere on the screen, but I'd tolerate a defective one on the 
very edge.  But not anywhere in the middle.
I bought all three of mine at one Circuit City location right here by 
me.   The second one, an NEC  1760LV blk was the display unit, and I got 
it because it was the one I wanted and the only one they had.  They gave 
me $50 off for 'open box' sale :)  It's got a perfect screen too.  So I 
could see what it was though I wasn't looking on purpose.  Just turned 
out that way.  Any I buy in the future, I will see it running and check 
it out before buying or I won't buy it.  That simple.
That covers everything but pixels going bad after it's used a bit. 
Sigh.  Never ends eh?
McG.