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Article #94320Re: Patch for ME
From: EvilBill
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:58
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:58
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Dan C wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:15:23 +0000, EvilBill wrote: > >>> In case you've forgotten (and you snipped it from the previous >>> posts), we are talking about ID games here, D3 and Q4. They were >>> specifically programmed to NOT work on W95/98/ME. What other >>> explanation could there be? > >> That Win95/98/ME blow big fat donkey dongs and always have? >> Quite apart from the fact those OSs are older than the Brontosaurus. > > That's a dumb answer, and is not related to the point, anyway. > >> No-one accused id of being in bed with M$ when they stopped coding >> for DOS and made Quake II Win95-only, did they? > > Perhaps because M$ made DOS too...? Gee, you're not the brightest > bulb in the pack, are ya? > M$ also made 95/98/ME, so id stopped coding for one set of Microsoft OSes in 2004 just like they did in 1997. It's easier to code something to support one or two platforms than to support 4 or 5 especially considering the flaws and instabilities in the Win9x series. Hell, if memory serves, they're not even fully 32-bit. They're stuffed full of old legacy 16-bit code. The NT/2000/XP codebase junked all of that. >>> Nor am I, but the 2 games in question are pretty close to "today". >>> Again, they were designed to NOT work on W95/98/ME. > >> Cause those OSs suck ass, are less stable than a politician's >> 'truths' and id probably stopped using them 6 or 7 years ago. > > Another great explanation. You're pretty smart. > The fact remains that 98 is a better gaming platform than XP in many > cases. I've used every Microsoft OS since DOS 3.1 except WinME. I found it hard enough to keep 95/98 working at all without reinstalling every month, let alone run games on them well. Personally I've always found Windows 2000 to be the most stable gaming platform, but XP comes a close second. I might note here that I could never get sound or Internet to work on Windows 95... but it works right out of the box on 2000 and XP. I think one of the issues is not that id themselves code specifically for 2000/XP, but that drivers for the older OSs are lacking or nonexistent for a lot of modern hardware. Can you even get DirectX 9 for Windows 95? -- -- "I hope you don't object to my badgering the witless!" EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.org.uk yahoo: evilbill_agqx
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