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Re: A $160 Athlon 64 3000+ beats an $825 P4 3.2 EE in Doom 3!

#86352
From: JK
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:10
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McGrandpa wrote:

> JK wrote:
> > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7
>
> Yeah, a 64 bit processor beats a 32 bit processor by 18%.  I knew this
> one months ago, where you all been?

The reason for the high score on the Athlon 64 is the on chip memory
controller and other enhancements, and the 64 bit ability. Those benchmarks
were done with 32 bit software.

>
>
> So, what's AMD gonna do when Intel releases a 64 bit processor?

When 64 bit software is released, I expect the Athlon 64 chips  to show
even greater leads over comparably priced Intel 64 bit processors.

> Or
> perhaps they shouldn't so they can assist the competition in staying
> alive?   AMD simply hasn't built anything they can scale the clock up

High clock speeds are a bad thing. They are associated with high power
consumption and hot chips. It is better to increase performance in other ways
if possible, such as using on chip memory controllers. Notice that Intel is
swiitching to model numbers for its processors. I guess Intel will now
try to increase performance by other means than just ramping clock speeds.
The best chips are probably those that have the greatest performance
per unit of power consumed, which probably translates to the best
performance per unit of clock speed. It looks like Intel has made some
progress with the Centrino, although its very high price seems to be
an issue.

>
> in, so they spread the architecture out to 64 bits.  And they STILL
> can't scale the speed up in their hardware.

The speed in terms of benchmarks is great. Clock speed tends to correlate
with high power consumption and hot chips, so knowledgeable people will
tend to want a great performing chip with a low clock speed.

>
>
> This race is an Indy 500 in which the leader is forced to allow the 2nd
> place car to advance, to use a new engine in mid lap.  All in order for
> there to even be a race.

Are you implying that the  P4 EE chips are like an aircraft engine
mounted on a car?  If someone can't get a car engine to compete well
enough against other car engines, then they take an aircraft
engine and mount it on a car.

>
>
> It's no secret, Intel has the die waiting.

> And waiting.
>
> McG.
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