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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:31:38 -0500, Dan C
<youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:33:22 -0700, mooseboyskip wrote:
>
>> On Sep 23, 12:28 pm, Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:07:38 +0000, RjY wrote:
>>> >>Real, serious, good players use the keyboard/mouse combo.  It's the only
>>> >>way to be truly effective.  If you don't believe that, well, you're suckin'.
>>> > I agree that most people find the mouse an improvement but your
>>> > statement is harsh. There are some good keyboarders, for instance
>>> > Ryback:
>>>
>>> >   So that's done at last, I'm very proud of it, fourth player ever to achieve
>>> >   this and, I hope everyone notes, the only keyboarder :)
>>>
>>> > (from <http://competn.doom2.net/incoming/compet-n/30ns7155.zip>, a
>>> > nightmare skill demo run of Doom 2 with 100% secrets)
>>>
>>> Perhaps, but that is an extreme exception.  For nearly all "average"
>>> gamers, using the KB alone will seriously reduce effectiveness.
>>>
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>> 
>> Well, I'm seriously reducing effectiveness now, because I can't
>> maneuver properly with one hand on the damn mouse.  I get hung up on
>> things, and I certainly can't sidle and shoot at the same time.  I
>> defy anyone to be able to sidle and shoot while using the mouse to
>> aim.  That's my complaint.
>
>You slide with your left hand on the KB, and aim/shoot with the mouse.

Yes, KB + Mouse is the way to go!  And yes, Chris (Ryback) is an
incredible player.  I've watched many of his demos over the years.

I don't understand how this person can't "slide" or circle strafe and
shoot simultaneously.  I would suggest to put down Doom3 for a bit, go
back to Doom2, go to Compet-N, watch some demos, read the player's
bios and mouse/keys settings and realise that 99.9% of the best
players in the world all use KB/mouse.