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Article #94654Re: DOOM 2: Hell On Earth
From: EvilBill
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:29
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:29
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count zero wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:41:29 +0000, pc games <pcgamer23708@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, count zero wrote: >> >>> THE first FPS was Wolf 3D... >> >> Agree >> But DOOM was the defining moment >> >>> The real followers are console games... In those games you >>> circle-jerk your way through targets by pressing buttons then >>> firing... How about using a mouse and aiming for yourself? >> >> Consoles are crap >> Consolist are dumb >> Console makers are monopolist companies wanting to turn customers >> into SLAVES >> >>> Duke 3D was the first to come up with 2-axis mouse aiming... >>> everything else is followers. >> >> No it wasn't it was Terminator Future Shock, one of the most >> innovative FPS ever created and one to be together with Wold3D > > Im pretty sure TFS came after because it wouldn't play on my 386 AMD > 40 Mhz 4 MB which Wolf 3D rocked on... > >> (yes >> definitely the first FPS ever created) and DOOM as all time best >> Duke Nukem 3D is a very well made DOOM clone and became a classic, >> but its a clone nonetheless > > Duke 3D was groundbreaking at the time. It had 2 axis mouse look, > creative weapons like the ice gun where you shatter the frozen enemy > and the shrink gun where you step on it. It also had good location > graphics, like city scapes, plus collapsing buildings and mountains, > not to mention great dialog for the time... Too bad Duke Nukem Forever > never materialized... > >> The innovation is with the humor which then gave birth to titles like >> Serious Sam >> Serious Sam is a "child" of Duke Nukem 3D and I feel that is a big >> compliment cause Serious Sam is now also classic material > > Yeah maybe Duke Forever should've used the Quake 3 engine like Serious > Sam and got it over and done with... Now all we have is Duke Fornever > still haunting us 12 years later... > > Duke is no doubt rolling in his grave... > > BTW, did anyone actually beat Serious Sam 1??? > Yup. ...On the easiest diffixulty. ;) > I gave up after the arena of endless Rhinos... -- -- * I always hope for the best. Experience, unfortunately, has taught me to expect the worst. Yahoo: evilbill_agqx Web: http://www.evilbill.org.uk
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