🚀 go-pugleaf

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:41:29 +0000, pc games <pcgamer23708@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, count zero wrote:
>
>> THE first FPS was Wolf 3D... 
>
>Agree
>But DOOM was the defining moment
> 
>> The real followers are console games... In those games you circle-jerk
>> your way through targets by pressing buttons then firing... How about
>> using a mouse and aiming for yourself? 
>
>Consoles are crap
>Consolist are dumb
>Console makers are monopolist companies wanting to turn customers into
>SLAVES
> 
>> Duke 3D was the first to come up with 2-axis mouse aiming...
>> everything else is followers.
>
>No it wasn't it was Terminator Future Shock, one of the most
>innovative FPS ever created and one to be together with Wold3D 

Im pretty sure TFS came after because it wouldn't play on my 386 AMD
40 Mhz 4 MB which Wolf 3D rocked on... 

>(yes
>definitely the first FPS ever created) and DOOM as all time best
>Duke Nukem 3D is a very well made DOOM clone and became a classic, but
>its a clone nonetheless

Duke 3D was groundbreaking at the time. It had 2 axis mouse look,
creative weapons like the ice gun where you shatter the frozen enemy
and the shrink gun where you step on it. It also had good location
graphics, like city scapes, plus collapsing buildings and mountains,
not to mention great dialog for the time... Too bad Duke Nukem Forever
never materialized... 

>The innovation is with the humor which then gave birth to titles like
>Serious Sam
>Serious Sam is a "child" of Duke Nukem 3D and I feel that is a big
>compliment cause Serious Sam is now also classic material

Yeah maybe Duke Forever should've used the Quake 3 engine like Serious
Sam and got it over and done with... Now all we have is Duke Fornever
still haunting us 12 years later...

Duke is no doubt rolling in his grave...

BTW, did anyone actually beat Serious Sam 1???

I gave up after the arena of endless Rhinos...