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"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message 
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> On 2/18/2006 1:22 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>> "Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message 
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>>> On 2/17/2006 7:45 PM pop brightened our day with:
>>>
>>>> It was more like doom-3 than the original doom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah but Doom 3 was still scary, and still had hell.  I'd like to see a 
>>> movie other than South Park that actually shows hell.  Did anybody here 
>>> see Constantine? There's something about the whole, albeit cliched 
>>> depiction of hell with all the symbolism and candles and stuff that gets 
>>> to me through my catholic upbringing.   I will absolutely never forget 
>>> the summer I spent at a camp run by this monastic order where this 
>>> freaky camp counselor read to us from Dante's Inferno every night after 
>>> lights out, I think I was 11. Scarred for life.
>>>
>>> Steve ¤ťIngloŤ¤
>>> www.inglostadt.com
>>>
>>
>> Didn't see Constantine.  I have seen a few "hell" related flicks.   There 
>> are lots of 'B' budget variations on the theme.   After a bit of thought, 
>> almost all that I've seen seem to have a (so-called) catholic hell theme. 
>> The one that I've seen the entire series to that kinda breaks the mold is 
>> the Hellraiser movies.   Yeah, it's still in the 'catholic hell theme', 
>> but with a decidedly Franciscan (dark ages) flavor.   Have you seen these 
>> Inglo? It's a strong and loooong story.  I think there are four, maybe 
>> five now. Jaws gave me nightmares.  So did these for a while.  Even 
>> Nighmare On Elm Streets  Freddy Kruger is a bad apple out of hell.
>> Doom3 was scary, but at a deep level for me.  Seeing the woman lying on 
>> the floor, dying.... and the Lost Soul rips out of her head... that one 
>> got to me.  The movie Doom had the right 'entry level' creatures.  For 
>> the wrong reasons.  The story was changed fundamentally.  Call it 'Doom 
>> Lite', if you will.
>> McG.
>>
>>
> I saw the first Hellraiser movie at a drive-in a long time ago.  I seem to 
> remember that as being mostly S&M, kinky sex stuff in a demonic kind of 
> way.
> From what I've read Constantine is not supposed to be that good of a movie 
> but the visuals are supposed to be disturbing and scary.  With the level 
> of CG sophistication nowadays I think hell would be an interesting thing 
> to depict in a movie.   If you did hell right you'd end up with a NC-17 
> rating though.

And everyone has a different take on *what* hell IS.   You mentioned Dantes' 
Inferno.   Brings to mind an impressionist painter of our time.  Max.   Some 
of the things he paints can be unnerving.  rendition of the moveable feast, 
for example.  or his idea of the last supper.
I think the "noisome pit" aspect has been run to the ground.

> The scariest part of Doom 3 for me was fairly early when you walk into an 
> office to get a pda and it's covered with blood and pentagrams and has 
> candles burning, as soon as you pick up the pda, the cackling starts.  Up 
> until that point I'd been playing D3 late at night with all the lights 
> out.  What's I find interesting is that none of that stuff should really 
> have an effect on me any more, I don't believe in any of it, yet it does.

Our early teachings are very hard to walk away from, no matter what our 
sensibilities say.    some of these early religious teachings become some of 
our most fundamental beliefs, and defy language.  They're about feelings and 
memories.  knowledge and understanding came later.

  On the other hand a game like F.E.A.R., which was
> spooky enough, didn't come close to evoking the kind of response from me 
> that Doom 3 did.

Well, same here, about FEAR not getting the same level of response Doom3 
does.  *STILL* does.   I have ROE now, and will play it through as slowly as 
i did the main game.   Fascinating application :)   Yeah, common type 
elements, and you know the "bOo" factors ahead of time.  They still spook me 
:)  I feel the hair on my neck move, skin tingles....[THUNK] zombie hits me 
with a stilson.  Their timing is great :)

I *REALLY* want to see it totally maxed out, in Ultra quality, 1280x1024 and 
smooth as silk without any hitches.   Got a 7800GTX256 now.  The other is 
due by end of the week ;)

Doom3 has an interesting idea of hell.    You should see the first THREE 
hellraiser movies.  You haven't been introduced to Leviathan yet....heh! 
With the first 3, you got pretty much all the good parts and info.  They do 
'explore' some of the stranger parts of the human psyche I think.   There 
are some good stories and reveals you haven't seen.  Pretty good as a whole.

FEAR is more interesting now that i have a more realistic level of detail.
>
> -- 
> "I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have 
> answers which might be wrong"
>
> Richard P. Feynman
>
> Steve ¤ťIngloŤ¤
> www.inglostadt.com

McG.